On 11.2.2022 1.36, Michał Górny wrote: > Hi, > > As you may have noticed, I'm practically maintaining LLVM all by myself. > This is a really tedious, time consuming and ungrateful task, and I'm > pretty close to burnout. I'd really appreciate some help. > > The problem with LLVM that it's a really huge, rapidly moving forward > (and breaking things) project. It needs frequent testing as regressions > happen frequently, and we have a good chance of having somebody else fix > it if we report them early. At the same time, testing takes a lot of > time. While ccache is pretty much a must, it doesn't help much long > term as the code is changing frequently and invalidating the cache. > > On top of this, there's almost-overlapping release process and Gentoo > slotting that's working so-so at best. After I've pushed LLVM 13.0.1 > final, I've had to immediately start testing 14.x and barely managed to > get some fixes in before rc1. Now 14.0.0 is expected soon, > simultaneously major changes are happening on the main branch > (i.e. 15.x) that also need testing and adjusting the ebuilds to.
Would it help at all to not always support different _rc's and .9999s? Or would that just bite "us" (as in Gentoo) back with a delay? > > 6. Work on setting up and configuring a buildbot for Gentoo LLVM builds. > This is some effort and I don't have the time to learn how to do that. > You'll probably need to set up a local instance and figure out how to > set our builds before submitting anything upstream; in my experience > they aren't very responsive to buildbot changes, so ideally we need to > flesh out any problems early. GSOC-worthy project? > > Yes, that's a lot of work. I can't do it all myself, I'm already doing > too much and this is having negative impact on my health. I really need > help with this. > I wonder if llvm and toolchain projects should join - not that there's probably anyone in toolchain interested/capable of doing llvm/clang currently. But they'd be the next with knowledge for at least simplest version bumps if you lay back a bit. Remember this is just a hobby - even though your work is very much appreciated, not worth of wearing yourself out over. -- juippis
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