On Wed, 2022-06-15 at 07:53 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-06-14 at 19:03 +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> > On 14.06.22 18:33, Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
> > > So my idea here is: instead of chucking EGO_SUM (automatically
> > > generated declarative dependency management) out the window, can we not
> > > separate the two and instead of uploading the tarball upload the
> > > dependency set instead?
> > I think that this idea that has been pitched already (see for example 
> > Robin's post [1]), although in a broader non-Go-specific sense and it is 
> > one obvious way to move forward.
> > 
> > An, and probably the largest, obstacle is that this can not be 
> > implemented in an eclass alone. Due the sandboxing during the build 
> > process, fetching distfiles, which is what we are talking about, is the 
> > package managers job and hence, I believe, this would require adustments 
> > to the package manager and package manager specification (PMS).
> > 
> > The basic idea, at least to my understanding (or how I would propose 
> > it), is to have a new top-level ebuild variable
> > 
> > SRC_URI_FILE="https://example.org/manifests/restic-0.13.1.files";
> > 
> > where restic-0.13.1.files contains lines like
> > 
> > <SRC_URI> <SIZE> <HASH> [<TARGET_FILENAME>]
> > 
> > which is, as you nicely demonstrated on the restic ebuild, where the 
> > bytes contributing to the ebuild size bloat originate from.
> > 
> > Those bytes are now outsourced from ::gentoo, can be fetched on-demand, 
> > allowing the package manager to download the individual distfiles into 
> > DISTDIR, where an, e.g., the go eclass can process them further within 
> > the constraints of the security sandbox.
> > 
> 
> Anything that involves breaking the Portage plan-depgraph / fetch&build
> separately would require major architectural changes, so can be rejected
> immediately as "not going to be implemented in our lifetimes".
> 

Just to be clear, I'm not against this proposal.  In fact, I think it's
probably the best solution that's been proposed so far.  What I wanted
to point out is that we probably don't have anyone who would actually
implement that.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny


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