I am willing to call myself one of the "power users", alas there are
still areas I know nothing about. None the less I enjoy reading and
answering "newbie" threads as they always give me a hint of another way
of doing things.
Thu guy has a small point though, it was just a matter of time before
the topic came up. gentoo-user is close to 100 mails/day which is very
high traffic and can consume quite a lot of time if you read all. So i
suppose something can be done.
Suggestions:
1. There was some talk about a packagedb a while a go. Having a seperate
forum for each package could take some traffic of the list.
2. A FAQ, lk-ml has faq with all newbie questions answered. I suggest
compiling a small beginners faq with links. A place to start before
asking the mailing list.
Here are my tips for info:
http://www.tldp.org
man
info
www.gentoo.org
mail archives
www.goole.com
http://www.google.com/linux
http://groups.google.com
www.package.org
i.e RTFM (but give me a mail when you found a good solution =)
/John
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 13:11, Martyn Welch wrote:
> On Thursday 06 February 2003 9:08 am, Jozsa Kristof wrote:
> > As a sidenote, I'm getting fed up with the level of discussions going up
> > here. I always thought the gentoo distribution is meant for the power user,
> > not for the plain brave user (the difference is that the power user has
> > both the experience and the _knowledge_ to do what he/she wants).
> > Appearently at least the gentoo-user list is filled with people mostly
> > coming from the 'huh what's /proc, nevermind, let's emerge -ep world again
> > with -O9' part. That's getting a bit boring..
> >
>
> Who counts as a power user? I have 1-2 years experience running Linux on my
> desktop and no, not duel boot. Unfortunately a lot of the distributions have
> become quite complex, no longer using the standard config scripts for
> programs (wireless on redhat 7.3) and have morphed into giant binary rpm
> distributions.
>
> I have recently left Mandrake on my desktop (I was getting feed up with the
> extra configuration stuff that sometimes screws attempts to do stuff via the
> config files) I am soon going to re-install my laptop with something other
> than Redhat (Similar reason), but a project box I am using will continue to
> run slackware. My point to describing the different flavours of linux I have
> used is to backup my claim that a lot of these "simple" issues will never
> have had to have been dealt with by a relatively versed user on many
> distributions - and it was learning these fundamentals that was a major push
> in my installation of gentoo.
>
> I don't concider myself a power user - I don't know enough yet - but I know
> enough to realise that a question about make flags in a Mandrake user forum
> would probably be left unanswered.
>
> > Anyway, have fun with gentoo.. I'll do the same, but off-list. Good luck,
> >
>
> Why? To someone who has never had the luxury of say, of doing a degree in CS
> (I'm not saying you have or haven't, I certainly haven't (Engineering)), some
> of the man pages and howto's either gloss over the basics/fundamentals and
> concentrate on a simple "type this get it running basis" or describe them in
> quite technical terms that may be competely alien to many. The only solution
> is to write to a list and pray that someone has managed to find a better
> source of information or will be polite enough to explain to then where there
> ideas/understanding is flawed.
>
> > Christopher
> >
> > ps. if the above doesn't fit you, dont take it.. it wasn't meant for direct
> > offense to anyone on the list.
>
> I'm sorry if this has turned into a (bit) of a flame, but I feel this needed
> to be pointed out.
>
> Martyn
>
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