On Tuesday 11 March 2003 21:12, Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm now almost 2 weeks trying to install Gentoo 1.4_r3.
> I work with other distro's for a few years now, and these two weeks make
> me feel like a idiot.
> A redhat or suse distro i can install within ours.
> It took me a few days to configure a usb-mass storage device and pcmcia
> wireless network.

I don't know anything about pcmcia wireless network, but usb-mass-storage was 
five minutes for google and 10 for the needed modules ;o)

> Now my base system is working, and i will start with X11 and other
> applications.
>
> I'm already having problems with my nvidia card and was wondering whats
> next.

What are your problems?
My very own experience (and the experience of a friend) is, tat the 
nvidia-cards are very easy to handle.

> Is gentoo such a difficult distro, or is my knowledge to little?
>
It is a very easy distro if you read the installation docs and the Readmes.
The XFree-Readmes and Nvida-glx Readme have a lot good advices.

> Having all this trouble i'm not surprised that linux on the desktop
> still is something for a happy few.

When I installed gentoo 1.0 I needed something around 16h... and there was no 
problem, I followd the steps on the web site and everything was ok.

When I installed gentoo 1.1a on a friends box, everything went smooth.
When I adviced a fellow through the installation using icq, the greatest 
problem was, that the messages sometimes arrived in the wrong order.
When the friend installed gentoo 1.2 on his laptop, he had some problems with 
his pcmcia-network card, but solved them with a little help from google.

I even made the 1.2-1.4 update without trouble.
In january a faulty udma-cable killed my installation, so I installed gentoo 
1.4rc* with the help of an 1.2 boot-cd.. there I had some trouble, but after 
2 days I had X and XFCE back ;o)
And almost exactly a month ago one of my harddisks died (the one with 
everything important). I used a grp-cd to get a functional system (with some 
trouble, after the rsync, it wanted to install a lot of new packages, had to 
emerge almost every binary-package by hand.) and rebuild it since 'naturally' 
through a lot of 'emerge -u world's ;o).

I came from slackware (started with SuSE), and gentoo is imho very easy to 
use&install. The friend mentioned above and I tried to install debian couple 
of times on different boxes.. and always broke it up because of the (imho) 
difficult installation.

> This is not mended to start a flame but i must say it.
>
> ps (i'm quit happy whit my RH 7.3 can do more than windows)
>

then, why change?

I changed from SuSE to Slackware because of the simple structure of Slackware. 
It was faster than suse and I was happy.

When I heard of gentoo, I was tired of getting the slackware-source.tgz and 
modifiying them by hand, only to have some decent optimiziations (not so 
important) or get rid of annoying depencies (very important).

So I always had reasons to switch over. SuSE, Slackware are both great, but I 
was never really happy. Because of rpm-hell, because of a lot of boring work.

I never changed from a system that made me 'happy' to a system that made 
problems. (I tried Mandrake, when I had SuSE 6.4 and hated it.)

So, if your RedHat makes you happy, stay with it, because you got never hit by 
the rpm-depency-hell hard enough. and without this experience gentoo is not 
so great ;o)


Gl�ck Auf,
Volker

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