Patrick Marquetecken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm now almost 2 weeks trying to install Gentoo 1.4_r3.
> I work with other distro's for a few years now, and these two weeks make
> me feel like a idiot.
> A redhat or suse distro i can install within ours.

The problem here is knowledge you already have. A Gentoo
installation seems like a pain in the ass when you are so used to
pointing and clicking an install and having things "automatically"
done for you. In other words, you become spoiled with the "walk away"
routine of other Linux distributions. 

A RedHat installation is almost identical to a Windows
installation. A Gentoo installation is similar to a Linux From
Scratch installation. You cant compare a Gentoo install to a Redhat
install, just like you cant compare a Gentoo install to a Windows
install... one is graphical and one isnt. A Gentoo install is even
more complicated than a FreeBSD installation, even though
administering a FreeBSD box might be a bit more difficult
than administering a Gentoo box. Look @ the LFS book
www.linuxfromscratch.org and compare it to Gentoo's install. The only
way a LFS installation goes wrong is when you skip a section, jump
ahead or try and do things "your way."

Ive noticed many pre-existing Linux users having a hard time with a
Gentoo install, and I contribute it to the existing knowledge they
already have on Linux. This prior knowledge makes many skip over
steps outlined (very easily and straightforward I might add) within
the Install How-To, because "oh thats simple stuff." 

I'm not trying to gloat, but my first Gentoo install was painless and
simple, because I followed instruction verbatim. I've noticed this in
my introductory computer class @ college, the people that raised
their hands up the first day of class when asked who had prior
knowledge and computer background are the people that are getting c's
and b's on their tests and quizes. This reason is due to them not
studying the material at hand, because they have a background on the
subject, so they ignore or do not bother with reading the books and
information handed out because they have prior background. The people
which stated "no computer background" are getting A's on all tests
and quizes, due to them *HAVING* *TO* *READ* and *FOLLOW*
*INSTRUCTIONS* *VERBATIM* and materials handed in class.

> It took me a few days to configure a usb-mass storage device and pcmcia
> wireless network.

You're not alone. Weird how you actually have to configure stuff
huh... I'm sure everything "just works" on Redhat. I find it a bit
more pleasurable having spent a few hours making something work, than
just having it work. 

You know I never had to battle with setting IRQ and i/o on hardware,
because Windows always made it just "work"... installing Gentoo on
another box using an older 3com 503 card made my life hell for a few
hours, until I sat down and learned what those little jumpers did and
what changing a few settings in the BIOS to Legacy ISA did... I can
now apply that to any computer system I have and am able to use
outdated hardware due to me spending a good day learning WTF was in
front of me. 

> Now my base system is working, and i will start with X11 and other
> applications.
> 

Congratulations!

> I'm already having problems with my nvidia card and was wondering whats
> next.
>

I dunno.

> Is gentoo such a difficult distro, or is my knowledge to little?
> 

You dont need knowledge to install Gentoo. All you need is to follow
instructions verbatim. 

>
> Having all this trouble i'm not surprised that linux on the desktop
> still is something for a happy few.
>

Yeah, the happy few which follow instructions verbatim.
 
>
> This is not mended to start a flame but i must say it.
> 

Neither am I... 

-- 
Louis C. Candell

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