Understood and agreed, However if I can eliminate 90% of the "accidental"
thisng that pop up on teh screen for my kids, why not? Example
www.whitehouse.com, one of my kids (8 yr. old) was working on a project for
school, I was with her, and it was too late to stop her and have her change
to .gov. Imbarrasing to say the least to explain it to her. A filter to at
least attempt to catch those accidental hits would help.
Also at work I don't have the time to peruse all the logs to catch the
employee who may stop in teh office at 11-12:00 and surf a little porn, I'd
like to remove the temptation.
I do agree with you in principle, but that is not always totally acceptable.
On Tuesday March 11 2003 4:37 pm, Susie wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:06:40 -0500
>
> gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i'd have to agree with craig on this one. stopping kids from doing
> > something is just encouraging them to find a way around the blockage.
> > the best thing you can do is talk to them and help them understand
> > what's out there. 'cause whether you want them to or not, whether
> > they're using your computer or not, they'll find they're going to see
> > everything there is to see... best you prepare them for it rather
> > than denying them the chance to make a decision to avoid it.
>
> I agree too. I've seen kids that were quite sick, etc at the hospice my
> daughter passed away at get around filters. For th older kids (over 10
> or 11) they couldn't even get to hotmail due to filtering(in their case
> by norton). My son is mentally challanged and 11 yrs old. He's used
> computers since he was 4.(he's not a savant or anything but can get
> around in linux, mac OS, and windows just fine). He knows right and
> wrong and knows where he's aloud to go. I've edited his bookmarks to
> make them point at kid safe search engines, home work info,
> entertainment sites, etc. I've made those links handy to reach(personal
> toolbar, etc). If my little guy (ok he's not so little he's 5ft2 and
> 133lbs) can be taught right from wrong and use the net unmonitored
> pretty much any parent could teach their kids. Not to say that on
> occasion he doesn'nt get into something. Instant messengers are bad for
> that. But I "net proofed him" by explaining what info to not give, that
> he should only talk to people he knows or I know(our family, friends,
> school buddies, etc) and that some people aren't what they appear to
> be.(one girl was calling herself brittney spears now my son and another
> mentally challanged teen thought that true. I pointed out to my son why
> it probably wasn't as he does know some famous people... David Arquette
> was one he messaged with and who doesn't use his real name for obvious
> reasons. Well my son understood that and is more cautious). My son and
> I also had a talk on facts of life years ago and he's had education on
> it in school from kindergarten on. So he's not phased by somethings and
> also from talks with me matter of factly on questions he's had he grasps
> somethings. Such as art vs sex and that sex isn't for little kids.
>
> Overall tho I think kids can be taught net safety basics and they are
> usually quite bright and determined so if you put in filters they will
> find a way around them or they'll be curious why it's blocked and find
> some way around them... or finally they'll get irritated that they can
> get their hotmail or whatever from school or the library but not at home
> and try to get around things. One warning tho and I don't think my son
> is the only child to do this. Be prepared for acro invasion. You'll
> see it used lots after they start talking to their friends or reading
> more websites for kids, etc. While I've discouraged my son from
> speaking acro alot(I don't want him to carry it offline and into school
> work) I do encourage him to email and talk with friends and family.
> This has helped his language and his will to learn.(kids are very
> determined if they need something and are curious so science sites, etc
> catch their eyes)
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