I forgot one thing. No matter which window manager you use (tho not sure on kde and gnome) you will have to generate your own menus. They give sample menu's however of course you may not use all the progs on there or have a bunch of things you'd like to add. Some window managers have menu generation utils built in. For fluxbox/blackbox/openbox you can use bbconf which is an all in one utility that you can do menus with. Xfce and afterstep both have menu creation things as well. There is also a program that will generate menus for several types of desktops but it's currently masked. I'm using openbox right now but would of used flux if I'd been able to get arid of the tool bar.(only other feature I miss from both is ability to have more than one slit aka dock which waimea does support but I find waimea is kind of weird to use<shrug>)
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