begin quote On Fri, 04 Apr 2003 13:00:25 +0200 Jose Gonzalez Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Snipping parts here, if theres something you want me to comment on, repost ;) > * About the optimization flags, don't give the "idiot" users the > chance to change sensitive compile flags. Maybe they could only > change the processor they are compiling for with --march-XXXX > and nothing else, This is a point, and Azarah recently implemented something close, but for CHOST, though it presents an issue for crosscompiling. > * About the bug reporting, maybe it could be created some > automated reporting tool. Gnome has one, I don't know if > works well, but it's an idea. Wouldn't this give us the other side of the problem? *cough-ho-humm* Not educating them, but making it even simpler than a web-form to submit bugs? hmm, As a point, Yes, I believe that the installation-procedure is an educational process for those who choose to do it, everyone may not be up to doing it, and thats quite understandable, but its flexible and errorprone, and could well be made simpler or helped some in good ways. (yes, I'm a bit torn in issues like this) But something in this discussion earlier spawned my interest.. the point about "binary installs" and GUI's. I'll elaborate some ;) In my view it would be a fairly "nice thing" to get a improved GRP like system for signed binary packages, download and installation through emerge, the same way it does for source. defaulted USE flags and a "good" background infrastructure to do this would be nice to have, both in a general end-user way, and for improved corporate use (See suggestions about "build machine + packages" ) For me, I'd use them, mainly because that would give me a very fast way to get the system running, and then I could change USE flags, CFLAGS and other things to rebuild in leisure while doing other, important stuff ( nice -+20 emerge -e world & nethack ) Such a default binary-system would put us up for direct competition with other, more common, distributions.. (hi Debian... we want your users ;-) But I also dont think we are mature enough for that yet, and charging ahead of the time would probably give a whiplash effect to hamper us in the following time. > > By the way, I have curiosity about this... do you all the > developers work for free in Gentoo? >From what I know, Noone gets paid for working on Gentoo. And from the inside, it isnt much prestige either ;-) Mainly bugs and odd ways that stuff break in. ;-) And trust me, I'm very helpful for our community and the people on our lists that take care of a lot of the issues we'd have to bother with at a daily basis. Thankyou all! //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end
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