Hey all,

I'm hoping someone can help me choose a Window Manager I don't
hate.  I've been through TWM, VTWM, FVWM, CTWM, Enlightenment,
WindowMaker, Sawfish, and recently Waimea.  I have some difficult
requirements that I have been unable to meet to my satisfaction.

The two most important are:

    1. not but-ugly, like TWM, VTWM, CTWM, and FVWM
       I care more about functionality, but these are simply
       depressing to look at.
    2. keyboard, keyboard, keyboard, keyboard.
       in my Utopia, _nothing_ should be possible with the
       mouse or (god forbid) a menu, that is not possible
       with a configurable shortcut key-binding

Of lesser importance is some actual beauty.  waimea was nice with
its translucency, but unfortunately the thing does not even have
Icons!

Sawfish is pretty nice, but I'm so sick of LISP-configurable SW I
think I'm going to puke.  Trying to get Sawfish to do anything it
is fully capable of doing is a major endeavor for me, because I
just don't seem to be able to think the way LISP programmers do.
Also, the menus in Sawfish suck.  It uses this external GTK
application that takes like 2 seconds to start and render the
first menu when you open it up for the first time.

And finally, I like to do some things with windows (from the
keyboard) that not all window manager authors seem to think is
interesting, like:

    1. move a window to a pre-specified position on the screen
    2. enlarge a window by X pixels in width or height
    3. make a window a specified width by height, or one or the
       other
    4. move a window to another desktop (but stay in the one
       you're in).
    5. cycle between windows (not with a menu or pop-up window)
    6. don't cycle between some of the windows (e.g., gkrellm).
    7. for some X applications, put them on a pre-specified
        desktop when they start (i.e., xterms on 1, ide on 2,
        browsers on 4, etc.).
    8. de-iconify a window (usually this involves popping up
        a menu and selecting which one you want (using the
        keyboard -- and not the damn arrow keys -- sawfish
        could do this - or some LISP I wrote, I can't remember).

Does anyone know of a window manager that can come close?  Does
anyone know of one that they are just impressed with the keyboard
shortcut configurability?

And for this last one, I'm not talking about some small set of
events that the author identified as worthy of keyboard
accessibility (a la WindowMaker, Enlightenment, Blackbox, <almost
all of them>).  I'm talking about something like twm had, where
_everything_ can be done with the keyboard.

    - richard

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Richard Kilgore
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