-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:55:07 -0500 Richard Kilgore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey all, > > I'm hoping someone can help me choose a Window Manager I don't > hate. I've been through TWM, VTWM, FVWM, CTWM, Enlightenment, > WindowMaker, Sawfish, and recently Waimea. I have some difficult > requirements that I have been unable to meet to my satisfaction. > > The two most important are: > > 1. not but-ugly, like TWM, VTWM, CTWM, and FVWM > I care more about functionality, but these are simply > depressing to look at. > 2. keyboard, keyboard, keyboard, keyboard. > in my Utopia, _nothing_ should be possible with the > mouse or (god forbid) a menu, that is not possible > with a configurable shortcut key-binding Ok try openbox, with bbpager, bbload, bbconf, bbappconf, and idesk. Idesk is what will give you desktop icons(and should of worked with waimea actually). It's masked but I unmasked it and had no problem.(my guess is it's still in testing stage). Also if you have a multimedia keyboard unmask lineak and emerge that. It works great and my keyboard is all mapped out making use of net keys and multi media... (the multimedia button launches mplayer on mine, the other keys tho control xmms, and my net keys control various apps I use tho could of controlled a browser) While I don't have other special keymaps beyond that happening bbconf does offer keymapping. BBappconf will do some of the other things you require of apps below as will bblaunch(which can open things on specified desktops via .xinitrc and can also specify if something is sticky to desktops). Using the mouse in openbox you can nav much as you did on waimea. You also can use windowmaker dock apps.(I have several going some of which launch programs again when clicked... also I'm the maker of a few dockapp ebuilds that are now in protage <g>). Oh and with openbox you can hide the toolbar which is what I do and I have the silt in the center instead. Fluxbox is good and I'd use it but it doesn't get arid of that toolbar tho it will hide it.(it tabs/groups apps). Waimea was cool but I found it's navigation disorienting... I just wish openbox had the tabs of flux and the second slit that waimea offers then it would be near perfect.(as well none of them are totally perfect but it would be what I'd like hehehe)... Anyways I hope this helps. Openbox is small and fast and related to waimea, fluxbox, and blackbox. Another one that is simple and good is hackedbox which I was trying to make a ebuild for but still have to learn something about using "commonbox" eclass. Next to openbox xfce4 rocks... only fault I have with it is I can't see how to dock windowmaker dockapps. If you use more than one windowmanger and your trying to see what you like best try selectwm as it will lauch x and let you graphically select from a list what you want to run. > And finally, I like to do some things with windows (from the > keyboard) that not all window manager authors seem to think is > interesting, like: > > 1. move a window to a pre-specified position on the screen > 2. enlarge a window by X pixels in width or height > 3. make a window a specified width by height, or one or the > other > 4. move a window to another desktop (but stay in the one > you're in). > 5. cycle between windows (not with a menu or pop-up window) > 6. don't cycle between some of the windows (e.g., gkrellm). > 7. for some X applications, put them on a pre-specified > desktop when they start (i.e., xterms on 1, ide on 2, > browsers on 4, etc.). > 8. de-iconify a window (usually this involves popping up > a menu and selecting which one you want (using the > keyboard -- and not the damn arrow keys -- sawfish > could do this - or some LISP I wrote, I can't remember). > > Does anyone know of a window manager that can come close? Does > anyone know of one that they are just impressed with the keyboard > shortcut configurability? > > And for this last one, I'm not talking about some small set of > events that the author identified as worthy of keyboard > accessibility (a la WindowMaker, Enlightenment, Blackbox, <almost > all of them>). I'm talking about something like twm had, where > _everything_ can be done with the keyboard. > > - richard > - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "A likely impossibility is always preferable to an unconvincing possibility." - Aristotle -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Ck+VeHHYEek/DSMRAqzsAKCLppXic0zaXs16V18nUKz4NNDEhACgmAH3 Oe5JcVIM4kHGsYkTY2/4a10= =7TZ9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
