On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:25:56 +0300, in gmane.linux.gentoo.user,
"Leonid Podolny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>[......]
>
>Well, once you perform a full 'emerge -uD world' and then do it regularly (I
>do it about twice a week), then the whole process takes ten minutes or so -- 
>it replaces only the newly available packages.
>Same applies to  'emerge -uD system' -- usually it quits right away without
>actually doing something.

I see, with Gentoo it is better to upgrade everything & often - this
distributes the compilations over time.

Here things are quite different. I upgrade only selected packages
(reasons: bugs, improved functionality). Therefore "emerge -puD
world" produces a long list (see [2] below). But the list for
"emerge -puD system" is _not short_ either [1], although the last
rsync+system run occured only 3 weeks ago.

Best regards,
        -Heribert
************************************************************************

        [1] Ouput of "emerge -puD system":

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating system dependencies    ...done!
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/debianutils-1.16.7-r2 [1.16.7-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-shells/bash-2.05b-r5 [2.05b-r3] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/libpng-1.2.5-r4 [1.2.4] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/freetype-2.1.4 [2.1.2-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] x11-misc/ttmkfdir-3.0.9 [3.0.4] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-libs/expat-1.95.6-r1 [1.95.4] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/texinfo-4.5 [4.3-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/miscfiles-1.3-r1 [1.3] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.3-r1 [1.3.1] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.0-r2 [2.1-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r2 [4.2.1-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-lang/tk-8.3.4-r1 [8.3.4] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/groff-1.18.1-r2 [1.18.1-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/man-1.5l-r6 [1.5l-r5] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/gawk-3.1.2-r3 [3.1.1-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/baselayout-1.8.6.8-r1 [1.8.5.9] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-libs/gpm-1.20.1 [1.20.0-r5] 
[ebuild    U ] app-editors/vim-core-6.2-r1 [6.1-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-libs/popt-1.7-r1 [1.6.3] 
[ebuild    U ] x11-libs/gtk+-1.2.10-r10 [2.2.1] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/jpeg-6b-r3 [6b-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/sgml-common-0.6.3-r3 [0.6.3-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/openjade-1.3.1-r6 [1.3.1-r5] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.0-r1 [4.1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.1-r1 [4.1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.1-r1 [4.1] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-util/dialog-0.9_beta20020814 [0.9_beta20020519] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/tetex-1.0.7-r12 [1.0.7-r10] 
[ebuild  N   ] app-text/jadetex-3.12  
[ebuild    U ] app-text/docbook-dsssl-stylesheets-1.77-r1 [1.77] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.5.7 [2.4.24] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.57.0 [1.52.2] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.0-r1 [4.1] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-libs/libxslt-1.0.30-r1 [1.0.20] 
[ebuild    U ] app-editors/gvim-6.2 [6.1-r8] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/fileutils-4.1.11-r1 [4.1.11] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/grep-2.5.1-r1 [2.5-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/net-tools-1.60-r7 [1.60-r6] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/procps-3.1.9 [3.1.8] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/psmisc-21.2-r2 [21.2-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/pam-login-3.11 [3.10] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.11z-r4 [2.11y] 
  
***********************************************************************

        [2] Output of "emerge -puD world":

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies    ...done!
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/debianutils-1.16.7-r2 [1.16.7-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-shells/bash-2.05b-r5 [2.05b-r3] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/libpng-1.2.5-r4 [1.2.4] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/gawk-3.1.2-r3 [3.1.1-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/baselayout-1.8.6.8-r1 [1.8.5.9] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/freetype-2.1.4 [2.1.2-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] x11-misc/ttmkfdir-3.0.9 [3.0.4] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-libs/expat-1.95.6-r1 [1.95.4] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/texinfo-4.5 [4.3-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/miscfiles-1.3-r1 [1.3] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.3-r1 [1.3.1] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.0-r2 [2.1-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r2 [4.2.1-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-lang/tk-8.3.4-r1 [8.3.4] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/groff-1.18.1-r2 [1.18.1-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/man-1.5l-r6 [1.5l-r5] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/grep-2.5.1-r1 [2.5-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-libs/gpm-1.20.1 [1.20.0-r5] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/jpeg-6b-r3 [6b-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/netpbm-9.12-r4 [9.12-r3] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/glut-3.7.1 [3.7-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-libs/popt-1.7-r1 [1.6.3] 
[ebuild    U ] x11-libs/gtk+-1.2.10-r10 [2.2.1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/sgml-common-0.6.3-r3 [0.6.3-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/openjade-1.3.1-r6 [1.3.1-r5] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.0-r1 [4.1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.1-r1 [4.1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.1-r1 [4.1] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-util/dialog-0.9_beta20020814 [0.9_beta20020519] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/tetex-1.0.7-r12 [1.0.7-r10] 
[ebuild  N   ] app-text/jadetex-3.12  
[ebuild    U ] app-text/docbook-dsssl-stylesheets-1.77-r1 [1.77] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.5.7 [2.4.24] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.57.0 [1.52.2] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.0-r1 [4.1] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-libs/libxslt-1.0.30-r1 [1.0.20] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/gdk-pixbuf-0.21.0 [0.18.0-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-base/gconf-1.0.8-r5 [2.2.0] 
[ebuild    U ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-4.10 [4.05-r3] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-libs/atk-1.2.3 [1.2.2] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.1 [0.8.0] 
[ebuild    U ] net-libs/linc-1.0.2 [1.0.1] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.2.2 [2.2.1] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-python/PyXML-0.8.1 [0.7.1] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.11 [2.3.10] 
[ebuild    U ] net-nds/portmap-5b-r7 [5b-r6] 
[ebuild    U ] app-admin/fam-oss-2.6.9-r3 [2.6.9] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.2.4 [2.2.3] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.2.1 [2.2.0.1] 
[ebuild    U ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-1.0.5 [1.0.2] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b [4.1.0-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-editors/emacs-21.3-r1 [21.2-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] net-ftp/curl-7.10.5-r1 [7.10.2] 
[ebuild  N   ] sys-apps/usbutils-0.11-r1  
[ebuild  N   ] sys-apps/hotplug-20030501-r2  
[ebuild    U ] net-print/cups-1.1.19 [1.1.15-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] net-fs/samba-2.2.8a [2.2.5-r1] 
[ebuild  N   ] net-print/foomatic-2.0.0  
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/Text-Balanced-1.95  
[ebuild    U ] dev-perl/Parse-RecDescent-1.94 [1.80-r3] 
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/File-Spec-0.82  
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/Data-Dumper-2.101  
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/Test-Harness-2.28  
[ebuild    U ] dev-perl/Digest-MD5-2.24 [2.20-r1] 
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/Inline-0.44  
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/Filter-1.29  
[ebuild    U ] dev-perl/PDL-2.4.0 [2.3.2-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] media-gfx/gimp-1.2.4 [1.2.3-r3] 
[ebuild    U ] media-gfx/gimp-print-4.2.5 [4.2.1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/ghostscript-7.05.6-r2 [7.05.5] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/alsa-oss-0.9.1 [0.9.0_rc1] 
[ebuild    U ] net-mail/postfix-2.0.9 [1.1.11.20020917] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/grub-0.93.20030118 [0.92-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-perl/MIME-Base64-2.20 [2.12-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-perl/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.05-r5 [6.05-r4] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/arts-1.1.2 [1.1.1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-doc/doxygen-1.3 [1.2.16] 
[ebuild    U ] app-doc/kdelibs-apidocs-3.1.2 [3.1.1a] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.1.2 [3.1.1a] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-perl/TermReadKey-2.21 [2.19-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-editors/scite-1.5.1 [1.4.9] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/procps-3.1.9 [3.1.8] 
[ebuild    U ] app-admin/gentoolkit-0.1.28 [0.1.21-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.1-r4 [1.4.1-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] app-editors/vim-core-6.2-r1 [6.1-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-editors/gvim-6.2 [6.1-r8] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-perl/libnet-1.13 [1.11-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] net-mail/mutt-1.4.1-r1 [1.4-r3] 
[ebuild    U ] media-sound/sox-12.17.3-r3 [12.17.3-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-admin/mirrorselect-0.5 [0.2-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-java/java-config-0.2.8 [0.2.6] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdebase-3.1.2 [3.1.1a] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.1.2 [3.1.1] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdepim-3.1.2 [3.1.1] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/svgalib-1.4.3-r4 [1.4.3-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/libsdl-1.2.5-r2 [1.2.4.20020601] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdegames-3.1.2 [3.1.1] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-cpp/gnomemm-1.2.3-r1 [1.2.2-r3] 
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/Audio-Tools-0.01  
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/Audio-Wav-0.02  
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/Test-Simple-0.47  
[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/MP3-Info-1.02  
[ebuild    U ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.1.7-r1 [1.1.5-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] media-sound/mpg123-0.59r-r2 [0.59r-r1] 
[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/flac-1.1.0  
[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/xine-lib-1_beta10  
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.1.2-r1 [3.1.1] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.1.2 [3.1.1] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdeedu-3.1.2 [3.1.1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-text/xpdf-2.02.1 [2.02] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.1.2 [3.1.1a-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.1.2 [3.1.1] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.1.2 [3.1.1] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.1.2 [3.1.1] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdetoys-3.1.2 [3.1.1] 
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kde-3.1.2 [3.1.1a] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-perl/Net-SSLeay-1.22 [1.19-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-admin/webmin-1.090 [1.080] 
[ebuild    U ] app-admin/ufed-0.32 [0.2] 
[ebuild    U ] app-misc/mc-4.6.0-r1 [4.6.0] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/pam-login-3.11 [3.10] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.11z-r4 [2.11y] 
[ebuild  N   ] x11-misc/xloadimage-4.1-r1  
[ebuild  N   ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.2.2  
[ebuild    U ] net-www/mozilla-1.3-r2 [1.0-r3] 
[ebuild    U ] media-sound/alsa-tools-0.9.1 [0.9.0_rc1-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/net-tools-1.60-r7 [1.60-r6] 
[ebuild    U ] app-cdr/burncenter-3.1 [3.0] 
[ebuild    U ] net-misc/ntp-4.1.1b-r6 [4.1.1a] 
[ebuild    U ] app-emulation/XWine-0.3.1 [0.2.2] 
[ebuild    U ] app-emulation/wine-20030508 [20030411-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-perl/HTML-Parser-3.28 [3.26-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.69 [5.68] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/fileutils-4.1.11-r1 [4.1.11] 
[ebuild    U ] app-admin/sudo-1.6.7_p5 [1.6.6] 
[ebuild  N   ] media-gfx/transfig-3.2.3d-r1  
[ebuild  N   ] app-admin/addpatches-0.2  
[ebuild    U ] sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.4.21 [2.4.19] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/i2c-2.7.0 [2.6.5-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/lm-sensors-2.7.0-r1 [2.6.5] 
[ebuild    U ] app-editors/xemacs-21.4.12 [21.4.9] 
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/xemacs-base-1.75  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/eterm-1.13  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/fsf-compat-1.12  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/ecrypto-0.12  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/sh-script-1.17  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/mail-lib-1.56  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/cc-mode-1.32  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/ilisp-1.29  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/w3-1.28  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/apel-1.26  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/edebug-1.15  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/speedbar-1.26  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/mh-e-1.17  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/vm-7.07  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/cookie-1.14  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/mailcrypt-2.12  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/tm-1.35  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/rmail-1.13  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/gnus-1.65  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/xemacs-ispell-1.24  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/xemacs-devel-1.50  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/elib-1.10  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/edit-utils-1.98  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/pcl-cvs-1.64  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/ediff-1.46  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/vc-1.35  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/emerge-1.09  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/prog-modes-1.72  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/dired-1.13  
[ebuild  N   ] app-xemacs/efs-1.29  
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/psmisc-21.2-r2 [21.2-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/parted-1.6.5 [1.6.1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-admin/gentoo-stats-0.4 [0.2] 
[ebuild    U ] app-arch/file-roller-2.2.4 [2.2.3] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/gstreamer-0.6.1-r1 [0.6.0-r2] 
[ebuild    U ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.7_pre20030624 [0.4.6-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] media-sound/lame-3.93.1-r1 [3.92] 
[ebuild    U ] media-libs/gst-plugins-0.6.1 [0.6.0-r4] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-base/gail-1.2.1 [1.2.0] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-2.2.3 [2.2.1] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-extra/yelp-2.2.2 [2.2.0] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-extra/libgsf-1.7.2 [1.6.0] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.2.2 [2.2.1] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-extra/gnome-utils-2.2.2 [2.2.1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-dicts/aspell-en-0.51.0 [0.50.2] 
[ebuild    U ] x11-libs/vte-0.10.27 [0.10.26] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-base/libgtop-2.0.1 [2.0.0-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-base/control-center-2.2.2 [2.2.1] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-extra/acme-2.0.3 [2.0.2] 
[ebuild    U ] sys-devel/gdb-5.3 [5.2.1] 
[ebuild    U ] gnome-extra/bug-buddy-2.2.104 [2.2.103] 
[ebuild  N   ] media-sound/normalize-0.7.6  
[ebuild    U ] app-cdr/k3b-0.8.1-r1 [0.8.1] 
[ebuild    U ] dev-util/devhelp-0.6.0 [0.5.0] 
[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/compface-1.4  
[ebuild    U ] net-www/w3m-0.4.1-r2 [0.3-r6] 
[ebuild    U ] app-emulation/dosemu-1.1.5 [1.1.3-r1] 
[ebuild    U ] app-editors/vim-6.2 [6.1-r14] 
******************************************************************

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Heribert Slama
Muttenz, Switzerland


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