Im not saying point and click is a bad thing... im just saying that there
are also non point and click distros that are just as easy to use ... once
they are running that is.. :)

and the person in the article is whine'ing about yum and rpm... of all
things rpm :)

dedrat prat managment :P

yes fine... redhat did pave the way for linux in the begining but... there
are starting to be major
differences between server distro's and workstation distros ... even a
desktop distro creator has made that clear ( mandrake ) with their
firewall/server/desktop releases as has suse... ( personal / etc.. )

i still have very many problems with the person who wrote the article. im
sure that if he knew what he was doing it wouldnt have hinder'ed him at all.

its the same as me saying my cellphones broken if i dont know how to make
calls on it.

P
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gwendolyn van der Linden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user]
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1236319,00.asp


| > the thing still is that he really has to know what hes doing
| > and linux will hopefully never be a moron's operating system
|
| Which 'Linux' do you mean?  I'm perfectly comfortable with the
| existence of click-and-go versions of Linux, as long as I still can
| configure my stuff by hand in /etc.  Given the large range of
| audiences that Linux even today spans, it should be possible to add a
| version that non-programmers can use effortlessly, without corrupting
| the modular and scalable Linux spirit.
|
| > one of the things i love about daemons is the fact they arent
| > just shipped finished products
| > and that people can add and remove features while the product
| > is being worked on  and everything is a work in progress...
|
| The problem is that some applications are not providing a more or less
| stand-alone function, but have to rely on various other
| applications/components that are already complex by themselves.
| Applications in the daemon class are typically well-defined and
| self-contained.  Applications in the interactive multi-media class
| typically are not.
|
| I agree with the author of the article that a package is not truly
| installed unless it is up and running.  Not all Gentoo packages meet
| that requirement.  Some are straightforward to configure, and some are
| just damn hard to get going.  As an example, it is somewhat silly that
| you are advised to _disable_ pcmcia support in the kernel when you
| want to install pcmcia-cs.  I can understand why a lay person finds
| that confusing.
|
| Coming back to Gentoo, perhaps it is possible to create more
| high-level virtual packages (such as gnome) that bundle together a set
| of packages (such as everything needed to run MythTV), and include a
| post-install script that configures everything as required.  That way
| the smart linux-savvy people can help out the 'morons'.  Gentoo is
| about capturing the knowledge on how to configure and install packages
| in ebuilds, so why not take that one step further.
|
| Gwendolyn.
|
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