gabriel wrote:
>> This point is going to take a long while to resolve, and the ball is
>> entirely in Linus's camp. For political reasons, allowing hw
>> manufacturers to create binary only drivers has been made difficult,
>> or at least allowed to remain difficult.
>
> it's not that they're trying to keep the process "difficult".  it's
> that they want the drivers to be free (as in freedom AND beer) -- and
> i support this thinking.

In an ideal world yes, but I cannot expect a competitive hardware
manufacturer to be fully open with its drivers. as any windows gamer will
tell you, drivers make a world of difference and it wouldn't be in a
companies best interests to allow a competitor to see how their drivers
achieve its performance.

You should be jumping up and down with glee at the level of support Nvidia
are providing to a such a teeny minority of its customers. your damned if
you do and damned if you don't.

> now i can understand (barely) that a corporation like ati, nvidia
> etc. might not want to Free their driver code, but what i can't
> understand is why they say that they "are behind linux" and then
> don't contribute either financially or technically to any of the
> projects attempting to develop drivers for their hardware.

Nvidia can say they are behind Linux,  they do provide an excellent binary
driver & installer. if other companies followed it would make a lot of lives
much simpler (as oppose to just providing a pre compiled module and some
cryptic YMMV destructions on how to use it)

Why should nvidia support projects to duplicate their drivers? They provide
an excellent & regularly updated driver that's written & maintained by
people that know the hardware inside out. It makes sense that the best
people to support Nvidia are Nvidia. An open project would simply be so much
wasted effort when there are so many areas of Linux that are in greater need
of attention.

Making the kernel as binary driver friendly as windows would be a great
place to start and IMO would allow Linux to make massive in-roads into
windows desktop territory. It would allow users to focus on actually using
Linux rather than getting it working in the first place, and make it
accessible to the vast majority of people who simply just don't care how or
why anything works, just so long as it does.

Rick

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