On Monday 15 September 2003 23:17, Collins Richey wrote: > On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:58:47 -0700 (PDT) > > Joshua Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why do you say that Collins? > > > > Joshua Banks > > > > --- Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:28:26 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > Joshua Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What do you mean "times out"....like your not gettting a reply from > > > > the needed site assuming that you have internet connectivity issues > > > > resolved? Can you get to other sites on the internet? > > > > > > > > Works for me.... > > > > deadmeat jbanks # emerge -up system > > > > > > > > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > > > > > > > Calculating system dependencies ...done! > > > > [ebuild U ] sys-apps/baselayout-1.8.6.10-r1 [1.8.6.8-r1] > > > > > > Works ok for me, too, but, alas, here's another freaking baselayout > > > upgrade - the biggest pain-in-the-tush on gentoo! > > Because it provides updates for files like fstab and passwd that are > critical to the operation of your system, and frequently the replacements > are worthless copies of the original default files. All it takes is one > miskey, and you're screwed. I'll not waste a lot of bandwidth here, > since this deficiency has been much discussed in the past.
By all means waste more bandwidth discussing the deficiency. The best thing we can do is post on the Gentoo dev list about the deficiencies or create a bug. The more people complain, the more the devs will see that the current way of doing things is not the best for the user base. I tried to convince the devs on gentoo-dev that allowing etc-update to present updates to /etc/make.conf is a bad idea because the file should only be used to customize the system from the defaults and not carry its own documentation. Others also thought updates to make.conf -- in the current implementation -- was not the most optimal but alas nothing came out of it. If you haven't read Daniel Robbins's email titled "[gentoo-dev] [Fwd: [gentoo-core] What Gentoo is all about]" on gentoo-dev here is a piece of it: "To summarize the heart of Gentoo, imagine a user sitting in front of a Linux system. What does he or she want do to? The Gentoo philosophy is to allow this user to do what he or she wants to do, without getting in the way." Well etc-update --- while a great utility --- is not letting me do what I want to do without getting in the way. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
