I think if you look carefully you'll find that these fancy GUI installers and sysadmin tools really don't help you any. I've used them on some other distros and found that I didn't have to have any knowledge of what was happening - I just pointed and clicked and hoped it worked. When it didn't I was in trouble - and many times the GUI didn't work. I decided not to use the GUI but find out how to do it and I've learned a lot - more so than if I'd stuck with the GUIs. The Gentoo philosophy is to let you do what you need, It takes an investment of time and effort to learn any OS - even Windows - and if a person is not willing to make that investment then they need to stick with the systems that provide the GUIs and not complain about Gentoo but they will be shortchanging themeselves.
On Sunday 09 November 2003 20:50, you wrote: > Yeah, I guess, if you like irony. > > Here's a rewrite to the Sven's philospohy: "To summarize the heart of > Gentoo, imagine a user sitting in front of a Linux system. He or she would > love to try Gentoo. But the Gentoo philosophy is to frustrate this user > with a lot of cryptic technical machinations. Then, as they go away, we > will be able to think of ourselves as exclusive and pretty smart." > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Gaffney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] GLIS for dummies > > Sounds about right to me. > > brian connolly wrote: > > In other words "To summarize the heart of Gentoo, imagine a user sitting > > in > > > front of a Linux system. What does he or she want do to? The Gentoo > > philosophy is to allow this user to do what he or she wants to do, > > without getting in the way." > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrew Gaffney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:08 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] GLIS for dummies > > > > GLIS was recently re-written to clean up the code and include a lot of > > bug fixes. Right > > now, I'm working on a GUI for GLIS, but it will be a while before its > > usable. At the > > moment, GLIS is more for people who have already installed Gentoo and > > know what they are > > doing, who just want to automate the install. > > > > brian connolly wrote: > >>Tom, > >> > >>Ya think someone might write an IS-GLIS? This is how dumb I am... how do > >>you install the Gentoo install script? > >> > >>Download the latest release... > >>got it. > >> > >>Extract by typing the following: tar xvjpf glis*.tar.bz2 > >>when, where? > >> > >>Run ./glis for directions > >>what? > >> > >>Brian > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Tom Wesley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 4:32 PM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] looking for gentoo for dummies > >> > >>On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 21:07, brian connolly wrote: > >>>Greetings all, > >>> > >>>I've tried seven or more distros in the last week. The conclusion: I am > >>>really looking for the gentoo philosophy and sophistication. I want a > >>>platform that is optimized for best practices and best tools. > >>> > >>>However, I am a newbie. As hard as I try, I am not going to be able to > >>>install for the documentation provided. > >>> > >>>As such, is there a gentoo version for dummies? Are there any plans for > > a > > >>>more automated install script? > >>> > >>>Brian Connolly > >> > >>As others have suggested, you should probably force yourself to learn, > >>but you might like to take a look at the Gentoo Linux Install Script at > >>http://glis.sf.net. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
