Well, I just love gentoo and am willing and able to help those who want
to check it out.  :-)

I'm just glad that I could help you out.

Have a great day, Jonas!

--Jason

On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 16:28, Jonas Widarsson wrote:
> Jason A. Pfeil wrote:
> 
> >I see the confusion, Jonas.
> >
> >You started from stage 1 but the directions you followed at this step
> >were for installing from stage 2:
> >
> ><quote from="http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml#doc_chap12";>
> >The stage2 tarball already has the bootstrapping done for you. All that
> >you have to do is install the rest of the system:
> >
> >Note:  If you are starting from a pre-built stage2 and want to ensure
> >that your compiler toolchain is fully up-to-date, add the -u option to
> >the commands below. If you don't know what this means, it's safe to skip
> >this suggestion.
> >
> ></quote>
> >
> >  
> >
> Well. It seems I put you just a little bit off track... sorry.
> I haven't reached step 12 yet, I just mentioned it.
> I got the errors from following on screen instructions echoed at the end 
> of step 9.
> It said, "You should update portage now."
> I googled for it and followed the instructions I found.
> which was "emerge -u system"
> 
> After struggling with the errors for a while and bothering you fine guys 
> with my trouble, I went on going for step 10, which was finished by the 
> end of the day.
> 
> I told you I was doing it *by the book*... Well, I have to confess I 
> also read the on screen instructions, that weren't mentioned in the guide.
> The guide may be all correct, and the procedure may be just as it is 
> told there, but I messed up after reading on screen messages.
> 
> If what you say to me solves this issue, I really would suggest that 
> otherwise wonderful guide was added a note, about the on screen 
> "recommendation" that misled me. Or alternatively, the system could be 
> changed to not show that message if the system can somehow know it won't 
> work anyway...
> 
> >This only applies if you are starting from stage 2 which includes an
> >entirely prebuilt gentoo build environment.  At this stage, since stage
> >2 contains things prebuilt and thus could have older, buggy code in it,
> >you are given the ability to update what it had already built.  Since
> >you are starting from a stage 1 build, the build environment is still
> >uninstalled...so there is nothing to update.
> >
> >Reading the instructions a little more closely would have prevented
> >this.  :-)  Maybe the install guide should make it a bit more plain by
> >saying that the note is only for stage2 installs.
> >
> Like I said, I had not yet reached that chapter and I actually have seen 
> that this does not apply for stage1 installs.
> 
> >The update portage that you are seeing is nothing to worry about.  You
> >can do that *after* you build the system.  The final portage that will
> >be on your system isn't even built yet so there is no need to worry
> >about the update to portage.  The install step *really* should be
> >followed as a recipe and doing everything exactly as it says.
> >
> >  
> >
> I understand clearly what you mean now, and will test it tomorrow 
> (friday, sweden) to see how it works out.
> 
> >Good luck!  :-)
> >  
> >
> Big thanks :)
> You (probably) saved me, you know!
> 
> Jonas
> 
> 
>  END OF REPLY **************
> 
> >--Jason
> >
> >On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 10:47, Jonas Widarsson wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>OOOh!
> >>Interresting.
> >>What you suggest is actually in the installation guide here:
> >>http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml#doc_chap12
> >>
> >>But if what you are suggesting is the solution, it tells me there is a 
> >>"bug" in the guide.
> >>Because when "emerge sync" is done, the system suggests I should "update 
> >>portage".
> >>I read this:
> >>http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/portage-user.xml
> >>...which told me to do the "emerge -u system".
> >>If it is not the preferred procedure to do that at that moment,
> >>there should be a "red" note in the guide saying "don't do that right now."
> >>Put it in the end of this chapter, I think:
> >>http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml#doc_chap9
> >>
> >>The bootstrap process is not finished, so I can't really verify if 
> >>things work yet.
> >>
> >>I'll be ba-ack.
> >>Jonas
> >>
> >>Jason A. Pfeil wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Hold the phone a minute.
> >>>
> >>>I think that we are all looking past the problem.  This problem occurred
> >>>*during* installation.  Installation was not finished, so there is no
> >>>system to *upgrade*.  The system was not installed yet...so I believe
> >>>that the correct step would be to run
> >>>       emerge -p system
> >>>followed by
> >>>       emerge system
> >>>
> >>>I think that will go to the root of the problem and fix it.  :-)
> >>>
> >>>Good Luck!
> >>>
> >>>--Jason
> >>>
> >>>On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 07:21, Jonas Widarsson wrote:
> >>>
> 
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