On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 17:40, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
> lukas wrote:
> > On Wednesday 28 January 2004 20:45, fisch wrote:
> 
> > Just do a broadcast ping (ping -b BROADCASTIP) in your network
> > and then type "arp -a". Now you should see all IPs/MACs in
> > your network.
> > 
> 
> :-) Good advice, but how can u ping "your" network broadcast
> address if u don't know it ? (Because, e.g. your dhcp client
> is not installed/broken ...)

You /can/ do dhcpcd -T -d, and that will give you the ARP of the DHCP
server answering (or at least the bootp helper switch/router).

Then, you find the IP. Maybe run arpwatch and check the cache.

> U have to use  "ping -I eth0 -b 255.255.255.255" instead,
> but it can happen not only DHCP server answers ...

More like it's likely it won't even answer. There's no good reason for
ISP infrastructure to answer to broadcast pings.

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