On Feb 13, 2004, at 2:12 am, Grendel wrote:

If anyone else feels that I am not wellcome in the list then I will remove
myself.

If I ask you to calm down when you reply will you do so, please..?
Otherwise I would like to exercise my voice now in stating that you aren't welcome, because I fear that you may not give the list this opportunity for peace again in the future.


If you start a new thread, you should not simply reply to an existing thread & change the subject, as the new message will contain "In-Reply-To:" headers, which cause misthreading on some (many?) mail-readers. You should instead create a new email message & enter the list's address manually or from your address book.

This is what Norbert was referring to in his post of February 12, 2004 10:37:38 pm GMT. If you had read the list for a little longer before posting you would have known this. Your remarks of 1:45am today were unjustified, then, as you were repeatedly in breach of netiquette. Clearly you failed to understand this, so perhaps you should have asked for further clarification.

This was recently posted to another mailing list to which i subscribe; I do not think I am alone in thinking it is particularly well-worded advice:

On Feb 9, 2004, at 3:45 am, Clifford H. Readout, Jr. wrote:
Do not grant trivial insults a high enough status to deserve a response. Do
not dignify rudeness by replying to it. Your reputation is not going to
suffer from critical comments made in this kind of forum. Most of us
understand that no one of us has all the right answers all the time. Most of
us realize that we are going to get some outright wrong answers from time to
time. Most of us can avoid being disrespectful to others on this list who
are freely giving of themselves to help the rest of us with our OS X related
challenges. The opinions of those who don't understand these things really
aren't worth getting upset about. Idiots (from the Greek idioto, meaning
unlearned, but not necessarily stupid) are recognizable to all but other
idiots. As a wise friend once told me, "It takes a bigger man to walk away
from a fight than it does to fight." So, to all of us I suggest that we do
not continue to demean ourselves by responding to posts which are not worthy
of the effort, and just "walk away." In fact, if no one responded in any way
to an ungrateful dolt, they might just learn something valuable about
isolation and rejection.


None of you kind people who supply answers to this list need to defend
yourselves, or point out the nonsense of others, and you especially do not
need to do either on this list. Responding to a flame from someone who
hasn't figured out how to behave on a list does more to damage your image
than anything the flamer could say. Most list readers quickly learn the
names and abilities of the other members. Most of us do not have much
respect for those who depreciate volunteers, or criticize those who try to
give assistance.

Stroller.





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