On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 01:16:27PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 12:34 on Monday 06 June 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:27:48AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Believe it or not you are supposed to "make invisible" all the junk the > > > app created. > > > > Well, once you get some of the amazingly bone-headed defaults corrected > > tbird is pretty nice -- for people with eagle eyes who don't need an > > integrated addressbook function, which describes no-one I know.... > > > > After much googling the conclusion is many many people are desperately > > unhappy about the fonts in tbrd and incredibly, it ain't fixable! > > Hard-coded font sizes -- isn't that, like, retardn00b mistake #4? > > > > :) > > No, no, no! Surely you jest? > > tbird is a Moz product. Rendering stuff on screen is almost everything that > they do ... everything else supporting just that one thing >
Yes, well isn't their cluelessness regarding defaults kind of legendary? I can't use firefox at all without pentadactyl installed. > > Another giant, glaring flaw: Doesn't appear to be any addressbook > > integration whatsoever that I can find, so it's necessary to pretend > > it's the 80s and remember the ancient practice of clunkily, manually > > C & P from the *separate* addressbook. Jeeeezus, and people think mutt > > is barebones, LOL (address autocompletion Just Works in mutt). > > > > I've already got a whopper of an eyestrain headache just from > > testing it. > > > > Tbird dismissed, not a realistic option. > > My users will bitch a blue streak over the lack of address autocomplete, > > god forbid they should have to type anything longer than "OMGLOL"... > > I kinda liked claws last time I tried it (earlier this year). Much like KMail > of old it just does mail and does it well. > > I found I couldn't use it though - I rely on the KDE addressbook a lot (it's > hooked into the GAL) and claws tended to get *really* upset everytime > Exchange > pulled it's usual stunt of popping out for 20 minutes coffee breaks 4 times a > day. > > That's not claws' fault - I squarely blame Exchange for > > a) Advertising it does IMAP but doesn't really pay attention to standards > b) Saying the service is up when it isn't really > > KMail OTOH, just sits in the corner and quietly sulks when Exchange goes > away; > then tries again in 15 minutes. Which suits me just fine. The requirement for > kdelibs doesn't bother me - this is a KDE machine > Thanks for that info, fortunately no exchange integration is required here. Claws is the next victim, in fact I've just emerged it. But now I need a break til the aspirin kicks in. Damn tbird... -- klaatu virada nicto

