On Thursday, 15. September 2011 01:58:59 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: > On Thursday, 15. September 2011 01:16:12 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: > > First, make sure you have emerged the kernel's sources. > > Second, check that the newer sources have been selected: 'eselect kernel > > list' followed by 'eselect kernel set'. Build the kernel, either using > > genkernel or make triumvirate (make menuconfig && make && make > > modules_install) Install the new kernel in /boot. > > Reboot. > > Warning: packages that build their own kernel modules, e.g., > > xtables-addons, must be re-emerged prior to rebooting. Rgds, > > > > --- > > > > :((((((((((((((((((( > > :((((((((((((((((((( > > > > Is it possible to compile the kernel without emerging kernel's sources? > > No. > > > I have made an installation one week ago on a virtual machine and it > > worked fine. The kernel on that virtual machine is 2.6.39-gentoo-r3. > > How is it possible to use the same manual, same mirrors, same steps and > > still to have a different kernel version? How is it possible not to > > work? > > You did not reboot. > > > If I use genkernel is because I DON'T KNOW how to compile the kernel > > manually. This being said, sentences like: > > > > "Warning: packages that build their own kernel modules, e.g., > > xtables-addons, must be re-emerged prior to rebooting." > > > > are the Gordian knot for me. > > No problem. Just use genkernel, if you like. It works for many of us without > problems. But you have to reboot. No matter how you build your kernel. > > I'm very frustrated because on gentoo's forum no one didn't answer for > > three days now, and on this mailing list we have changed 4-5 emails > > regarding how an email should be written. > > If you want help, you need to know, how to ask questions in a "correct way" > - if your mails are unreadable, nobody will read them and you will get no > answers. > > > Meanwhile, my server is still offline. > > Why don't you follow my advices? Have you tried only one of the options I > offered? You know, I am an experienced user, I don't tell you shit. > > > Now, in another order of ideas: > > - I have searched the internet for 2-3 days before sending an email here > > Here's a tip. If you see an error, you cannot decipher, put it into google > with quotes and gentoo, in your case: > > "touch: setting times of" gentoo > > The second hit, I get here, describes your problem. > > > - I didn't read the standard of how to send an email and I'm sorry for > > that but I didn't had time - I wrote the emails using the format that > > seemed more "natural" for me, the newest on top having the track of > > emails bellow, so that anyone who sees the email can understand what's > > this all about, including myself; I had to search for a half an our in > > my emails to find the first email on another topic... - I do not now > > how you format your emails to look the way they look, having that > > sentence on top with "x wrote on..." and ">" before each line of the > > text you keep for reply; this is why I have used standard reply from > > yahoo, because I didn't wanted to reinvent the wheel > > I hit reply in my mail-client (kmail). That's all I have to do. Is yahoo's > reply really so broken? Hmmm. > > > - I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR EACH USER ON THIS EMAIL LIST BUT I NEED > > URGENT HELP ON THE TOPIC: I CANNOT INSTALL GENTOOOOOOO - I AM NOT AN > > EXPERIENCED USER WHO CAN CREATE HIS OWN KERNEL, RE-WRITE DRIVERS AND SO > > ON; PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND IF YOU ANSWER HAVE PATIENCE > > Shouting at people, that try to help, is a bad idea in my book. > > > Thank you in advance! > > Best, > Michael > > ---- > Dear Michael > > Thank you for your help! > I didn't reboot my machine as the installation is not complete yet. How can > I reboot when the installation isn't finish, if things that should work > don't work in the first place?
I can well understand, that you don't like to reboot your server right now. > I didn't try your advices as I don't now how to try them. How do I > deactivate sandbox? In /etc/make.conf 1) it already has a line starting with FEATURES= a) that line already has an entry "sandbox" solution: add a - before it, so it reads -sandbox b) the line does not contain "sandbox" solution: add -sandbox at the end 2) there's no line starting with FEATURES= solution: add line FEATURES="-sandbox" to /etc/make.conf > I tried to search for > "touch: setting times of" gentoo > but I don't understand how this is related to my problem. That's (part of) the error-message you got, when you tried to compile syslog- ng (in fact, it was part of the error, when emerge tried to compile autoconf, which is needed by syslog-ng) > Yahoo reply broken? I don't know what to say about that... gmail works in > the same way, outlook in the same way, thunderbird in the same way. No, they don't. A lot of people here on the list use thunderbird and gmail, most replies are wellformed. Don't know, what outlook does. There's no linux- or BSD-version, so I don't care. > Now I'm at work, but when I will get home I will try your advices. I don't > know how to that but I will find a way. Suppose that it will work, I'm > afraid that I will have big problems with my server after that. I think it > will keep stop me from working with errors similar to this one. If you have busybox installed, I would replace touch with the busybox version, until your server is up and running again with a new kernel. How to do this: a) check if busybox is installed and if it has "touch" in it type in a shell: ~ $ busybox and press return. If busybox is installed, you will get a lot of output, among it there will be something like: Currently defined functions: <lot of stuff> See if "touch" is included in <lot of stuff> b) If it is, do the following as root: mv /bin/touch /root ln -s /bin/bb /bin/touch If touch is not included in your busybox install or you don't have busybox installed: try, if emerge busybox works If that fails try FEATURES="-sandbox" emerge busybox if that also fails, disable sandbox in /etc/make.conf as explained above. Otherwise continue with b). After all that, your emerge should work again. When you are done upgrading your server: a) you did disable sandbox in /etc/make.conf solution: revert the changes in /etc/make.conf b) you replaced touch by busybox: rm /bin/touch mv /root/touch /bin > Sorry for "shouting" but I do not have power to continue anymore... :(( what > should have been a straight forward installation, converted into a > nightmare I know that. Upgrading oldish gentoo-installs can be a very disappointing experience. Best, Michael