Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 11:23:43 schrieb pk: > On 2011-09-18 09:37, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Other systems may start to use it if it proves itself useful. Lucky for > > us, it doesn't obsolete anything else, just adds functionality to what > > is already there. > > Although, one thing which I find very annoying is that the things that > depend on it starts dbus-launch/daemon no matter if I don't want to run > it or not (it's not running acc. to rc-update show but ps -ef shows both > dbus-launch and dbus-daemon running). I'm using Xfce4 and have Audacious > installed which depends on dbus-glib, which of course depends on dbus > itself. No other packages uses it (USE= -dbus). Xfce4 and Audacious > hasn't used dbus before a certain version (at least it has not been > mandatory) and I've been using them for years (haven't had the time to > look for alternatives yet). > In general I have a problem with packages that pulls in *something* > which in turn depends on *something else* which in turn... overlapping > functionality etc. It's quite troublesome to keep, for instance, gconf > out of my system (masked by me to detect any "upgrades" that tries to > pull it in)... > > In my "world" software (in general) should not become an "obstacle"; it > is just a tool to accomplish whatever you want it to do. Ideally the OS > (and whatever interfaces the user) shouldn't consume _any_ resources at > all (yes, I'm well aware that it's not possible). Resource usage should > at least be kept to a minimum, otherwise I have to buy new faster > hardware for each "upgrade" (be it for security, for functionality etc.) > and if I liked that I could just go with Windows. My whole complaint > about this udev business is that we're "ballooning" out of control, IMO, > becoming the "monster" that, I assume, most of us wanted to avoid. > > PS. My animosity towards dbus is "historical"; I did use it years ago > (together with gnome, gconf etc.) which caused me nothing but trouble. > I've avoided that crap ever since. I do agree that the idea _behind_ > dbus seems sensible but I'm not so sure about the implementation. > > Best regards > > Peter K
years ago? is gnome even using dbus for years? They had their broken corba/orbit/bonobo stuff. And what is your problem with dbus anyway? I bet you can't even measure a difference between dbus running and dbus not running in speed or responsiveness of your gui. -- #163933
