On 10/07/2011 03:36 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote: > Am 07.10.2011 02:55, schrieb Michael Orlitzky: >> On 10/06/11 19:42, Jonas de Buhr wrote: >>>> If we have some grub-legacy and some grub2 installs, >>> why would you do that? >> Eventually, grub2 will be all that's available from portage. At that >> point, I can either, >> >> 1) Install grub2 on some machines. >> >> 2) Maintain grub-legacy (and install media) myself. > > i really don't think thats the way its going to be. i think there will > be grub and grub2 in portage potentially forever. like with python 2 and 3. > > even if not, 2) takes you one cp command and a little bit of disk space > for the grub tarball.
Python2 will stick around because most packages (portage!) don't work with python3. Grub doesn't have the same problem. (2) requires me to at least, * Figure out how to build a Gentoo install CD * Fork grub-legacy on our servers somewhere * Test it against all future kernel releases * Document why we're doing this, and how to do the first three steps. >> * Upgrade a bunch of my servers at 4am? > why not choose a convenient time to upgrade? 4am *is* the convenient time to upgrade. >> If you still think it's "not much" then I'd be happy to have you do it >> while I drink margaritas. > no, i still don't think its as much of a big deal as you make of it. > about as much work as a kernel upgrade. let's wait for grub2 to go > stable before you send me that ticket ;) This fails as a debate strategy since you wouldn't have to pay my mortgage and feed me if you screwed up =) Kernel upgrades usually take me a full day. I get to skip most of the documentation step, but have to deal with heterogeneous configs. I'm not saying that this is some huge problem on a cosmic scale, but it is going to waste a day and risk downtime for no user-visible benefit.
