On 27/04/2013 00:11, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Alan McKinnon <[email protected]> > wrote: >> On 26/04/2013 22:46, the guard wrote: >>> Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon >>> <[email protected]>: >>>> Do none of us here ever deal with Windows? :-) >>>> >>>> I notice that no-one has yet mentioned that Windows does not do ntp, as >>>> Windows does not do time right, doesn't do timezones right and I >>>> strongly suspect can't even do dates right (this latter still unproven) >>>> >>>> Windows time servers need some magic Microsoft thing called ENTP which >>>> is in no way related to the ntp we all know and love >>>> >>> It refuses to adjust time if you have a wrong date. timezone is set in >>> your system >>> >> >> >> I was thinking more along the lines of how Windows has no concept of UTC >> set in the hw clock and a local timezone, and how timezones are odd >> things like Harare/Pretoria instead of the official names like >> SAST GMT+2 as set by the scientific timekeeping community. >> >> How about daylight savings? Can Windows deal with that? Other than by >> just shoving the clock back and forward by an hour on the right days? > > I've used windows for the past 25,000+ work hours at my job (I wish > that were an exaggeration) in an all-Microsoft corporate environment. > I dare not declare myself an expert in anything Windows so as not to > encourage more of it. :)
[snip much detail about Windows tying itself in knots to do something quite simple] > Now we return to our regularly-scheduled programming... In comparison I have it easy :-) The last time there was a leap-second all I had to do was check our time servers tracked upstream wrt leap-*, and checked that my team's machines did the same. ClusterSSH, bash, grep, sed and awk made this an exercise in on-liner skills :-) I then told the reat of the company using Unix to do the same, and the whole thing was a non-event. Now for the Windows fellows and the idiot running the Domain Controllers in OurAmazingParentCompanyWhoThinkTheyAreCool(tm). Apparently they had a torrid time of it, especially as they ignored all heads-up communications from us. I don't know how they managed to fix all the Windows workstations as we were quite happy to return that favour. -- Alan McKinnon [email protected]
