Am 29.09.2013 13:03, schrieb Greg Woodbury:
> On 09/29/2013 06:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>
>> why do you bring up udev and systemd AT ALL?
>>
>> They are not the problem or the reason why seperate /usr is prone to
>> break.
>>
> Except that systemd *is* why a seperate /usr is broken now.
> Parts of the libraries that systemd depend on we *deliberately* placed
> in /usr despite the fact that they are needed to bbring the system to
> an operational state.  For *years* things required to boot the system
> were defined to be in the root file system, and items not required
> until after mounting had been accomplished were to be placed in /usr.
>
> BTW: There is a standard (The File System Hierarch Standard - FSS)
> that existed and described this behaviour.  It was killed off by
> deliberate vendor refusals to support or adhere to it.  In
> frustration, the folks involved simply gave up.
>

things were broken way before that. As much as I hate systemd, it is not
the root cause of the problem.

The problems were caused by people saying that seperate /usr was a good
idea, so / would not fill up and similar idiocies. The problems were
caused by people saying that lvm is a good idea - for desktops. Those
people who are fighting against the kernel auto assembling raids are to
blame too.

Systemd is just another point in a very long list. 

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