James: > <karl <at> aspodata.se> writes: > > > > I found a workaround in the sys-fs/static-dev package. > > Interesting read :: bgo #107875
I'm new to gentoo, is there some special semantic to the "bgo #" ? > > > Let's be clear: static-dev is NOT a workaround. It is a full proper > > > solution for the case when a dynamic device node solution is not > > > desired. > Well, I can think of embedded (linux) systems, a lock-down server and > machine(s) loaded up with (NFV) Network Function Virtuals, as prime examples > where a static dev is very useful; albeit a management pain if one is not > careful. This is a very interesting topic for me. I have had no pain useing an old plain /dev. What's the pain ? > > > Of course it means you have to mknod every device you need yourself. But > > > you know that going in right? > > > Yes (though I alreade have a /dev from before). > > For explicit clarity, you've got a "/dev" from using dev-manager on the > system previously, and now you desire to switch to a static-dev? (Why ?) > Or did you derive from scratch (or other means) a '/dev' for a specific > need you are working on by design, historical example etc? No, I never used udev et al on my boxes, there has simply been no need. > I apologize in advance, but this thread intersects some critical new > thinking on systems cluster formation. I have ran into a small group of > extraordinary coders that are building a Hi Performance Cluster out of C, > Rust and a minimized static-dev. So I am very curious as to your specific > and detailed motives for this 'static-dev'. If a private note is warranted, > feel encourage for that type of response. If this unbounded curiosity of > mine is unwelcome, you have my deepest apologies. I never had any compelling reason to let some daemon with mess with /dev. And I have had a compelling reason to avoid it, when doing an "usual" stable dist-upgrade of Debian lenny to squeze (I think), Debian installed udev per default and everything just stopped working. And that darn thing wouldn't uninstall and /dev wouldn't unmount to get back my /dev-entries. So udev have only giving me pain and no gain. The only thing dynamic theese days are usb. Usb disks I can handle manually, usb kbd/mouse has always worked. I usually don't use more than one keyboard so I don't really need xkb, nor do I need something to autodetect keyboard layout, since I change it to something else anyhow. And udev woun't detect my serial mouse anyhow... so much for that. That said, if I would like to test some "dev-manager" (except myself) than I'd look into something that behaves nicely, like mdev (busybox) or vdev (https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev.git). Regards, /Karl Hammar ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden +46 173 140 57
