Nils Gillmann <niasterisk <at> grrlz.net> writes:

> > So I just read about how Tails is now available on Debian [1].

> > [1] https://bits.debian.org/2016/02/tails-installer-in-debian.html

> > [2] https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/bootstrapping/installer/

Trimmed down per gmane posting rules.


> I did dig into this when I had the idea to rebuild a Whonix +
> Tails on the basis of Gentoo before I realized the brokeness of
> virtualization (as in: insecure the better virtualization works),
> asked the whonix devs about a statement, got none, asked contacts
> and eventually got enough info over the last year to consider it
> something I wouldn't try. 

Hmmm. Well I usually use a minimal gentoo (profile -1) amd64 system to first
build things, only installing packages requisite for the intended target.
That avoids VM issues. I guess there is the Whonix gateway, and that looks
pretty straightforward here [A].


> There are gentoo based systems with security in mind, but I am not very 
> positive about re-creating Tails on current state of Gentoo.

Hmmmm. LikeWhoa, one of the gentoo devs, put together a gentoo install
system from usb, that includes persistence, quite some time ago. [B]


> Tails and/or Whonix have tried and shifted focus away from Gentoo
> for reasons which can be read on their github repo wiki and with
> good websearches.

Tails is the tor-node on a usb, with persistence, or did I miss some of
the deeper capabilities? Having a debian and gentoo similar (anonymous)
device does seem a bit enticing to me. For sure it'd be a great additional
protection for credit card usage over the net, in addition to the existing
pathetic protections folks currently have.


I certainly appreciate your candor. However, I cannot find the listing of
issues with these aforementioned codes(packages) on gentoo. All I think I
really need it the software (packages) listings and some guidelines and
gotchas. Also you should look at Anthony's excellent works [C]. I'd
ceratainly appreciate a bit more detail (private email is ok too), or a
'data dump' on exactly what problems exist.  My interest is to master a
similar device for stealth usage, that is gentoo centric. Most of the pieces
seem to be present, so it's mostly an integration and testing effort?

James


[A] https://www.whonix.org/wiki/HardenedGentooTG

[B] https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-995118.html
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Install_Gentoo_on_a_bootable_USB_stick

[C] http://opensource.dyc.edu/tinhat-howtocook



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