Nils Gillmann <niasterisk <at> grrlz.net> writes:
> >> > So I just read about how Tails is now available on Debian [1]. > >> > [1] https://bits.debian.org/2016/02/tails-installer-in-debian.html > >> > [2] https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/bootstrapping/installer/ > > Trimmed down per gmane posting rules. > Could you provide a link, so I could look into the rules, as the > gentoo.org pages dealing with the lists show no difference to > what I am used to on other lists. http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user gmane.org is a front end to this and other lists that I use. I complains loudly if you post is shorter than what you respond to as included text. Just use it a bit and you'll see. > >> There are gentoo based systems with security in mind, but I am not > >> very positive about re-creating Tails on current state of Gentoo. > I have to rephrase this. It is possible, but I personaly don't > see a benefit in reinventing the 10th generation of wheels (a > widespread issue). For research, well, why not. No harm in using debian, to me. I just like to keep the things I do in the gentoo family, as opposed to running all sorts of other linux distros. For a person working alone, there are only so many hours in the day. > > Hmmmm. LikeWhoa, one of the gentoo devs, put together a gentoo install > > system from usb, that includes persistence, quite some time ago. [B] > >> Tails and/or Whonix have tried and shifted focus away from Gentoo > >> for reasons which can be read on their github repo wiki and with > >> good websearches. > See next reply. > > Tails is the tor-node on a usb, with persistence, or did I miss some of > > the deeper capabilities? Having a debian and gentoo similar (anonymous) > > device does seem a bit enticing to me. For sure it'd be a great > > additional protection for credit card usage over the net, in addition > > to the existing pathetic protections folks currently have. > > I certainly appreciate your candor. However, I cannot find the listing of > > issues with these aforementioned codes(packages) on gentoo. All I think I > > really need it the software (packages) listings and some guidelines and > > gotchas. Also you should look at Anthony's excellent works [C]. I'd > > ceratainly appreciate a bit more detail (private email is ok too), or a > > 'data dump' on exactly what problems exist. My interest is to master a > > similar device for stealth usage, that is gentoo centric. Most of the pieces > > seem to be present, so it's mostly an integration and testing effort? > Okay, I think I was wrong. I got mixed up with Whonix and Tails > coming together, what whonix did run into is listed here: > https://github.com/Whonix/Gentoo-Port/issues Excellent! > Back then I did not look very closely. It might be that some of > the 1 - 1.5 year old issues are closed now. LikeWhoa's work did not get disseminated widely for quit a while, so you are not alone in missing persistence with usb and live installs. I'm not sure he is the first, but, his work here at gentoo is always appreciated and top-notch. tinhat and Blueness's other works beccame very close to what I was looking for. It did not have a ebtables/iptables/nftables frontend so I have struggled to put that together on one tinhat system. I think the whonix gateway mostly solves that issue, or at least provides a similarly functioning codebase to start with, for what I'm looking for. > I only did stop because I became sceptical on some parts of the > Gentoo project and looked for better solutions to topic unrelated > issues. Currently I am interested in doing the same thing with > GuixSD or with Gentoo running Guix, although that's a rather long > term project and not my primary focus of interest. I'm challenged enough trying to build something like Tails+Whonix on a usb-stick for now, gentoo centric. Sure after that I'd also be interested in it's VM modifications, so it can be easily installed in a variety of server (cluster) situations. Thanks for all of your help and insight. James
