J. Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> [16-11-30 10:44]: > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 07:55:11 AM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > J. Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> [16-11-30 07:28]: > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 07:08:45 AM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > J. Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> [16-11-30 06:48]: > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 05:33:15 AM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > > > Kai Krakow <hurikha...@gmail.com> [16-11-30 05:08]: > > > > > > > Am Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:42:16 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: > > > > > > > > I get sick of this [CESNORED] HTML5 stuff coming from YouTube! > > > > > > > > Most of the videos while playayaingnaying arereare > > > > > > > > stututterutering > > > > > > > > liiklike helellell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tested a lot of HTML5 addons to fix that problem and googled > > > > > > > > around the world but nothing helps. The only thing I found is an > > > > > > > > iconic sentence, which is true in this case also: > > > > > > > > "You are not alone...!". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into > > > > > > > > a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer > > > > > > > > not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and > > > > > > > > again.)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For me it was just the other way around. HTML5 mode played much > > > > > > > (very > > > > > > > much!) more smooth than flash player. I opted in early by that > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > switching YT to HTML5 player. This was for Chrome, of course, > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > by that time Firefox wasn't really compatible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You probably really should check your graphics stack. If you have > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > least somewhat decent machine (something which was built during > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > last 5 years), you should have absolutely no problems playing > > > > > > > videos > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the HTML5 player. Even my aging machine in the office (which > > > > > > > didn't > > > > > > > play smooth videos in the flash player) runs full HD streaming > > > > > > > videos > > > > > > > smoothly in the HTML5 player - no stuttering, no blocking, no > > > > > > > framedrops. This was different with the flash player which looked > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > it dropped every second frame in fullscreen mode - but at least it > > > > > > > did > > > > > > > not stutter due to that "optimization". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe give some information about your graphics stack and > > > > > > > configuration... > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kai, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that the hardware is not the problem, since downloading the > > > > > > video and playing it offline had resulted in no problems ever... > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Meino > > > > > > > > > > Meino, > > > > > > > > > > In one of your other emails, you mentioned that your ADSL is incapable > > > > > of > > > > > providing the full-HD stream. > > > > > This could easily be the cause for the issues you are having with > > > > > HTML5 > > > > > video as well. Maybe look into cache-options? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Joost > > > > > > > > Joost, > > > > > > > > did this (~/.config/mpv/mpv.config) with no positive effect. > > > > I decreased the video resolution to <1280 (again via mpv.conf) which > > > > helps to some degree. > > > > Interesting is: It hangs always a the same points in the video if > > > > playing the same video with different configurations. > > > > > > > > I called mpv with an url form the commandline and indeed it shows > > > > "playing video" and "buffering" (at this point it hangs) alternateing. > > > > > > > > The FF problem was not only hangs but something like the following > > > > sentence: > > > > > > > > Thehe quiquickkckick bkrowownwn foxoxfoxx joxujumumpjumpsumps > > > > oveovrver thhehe lazazylazyzy dogog > > > > > > > > Somehow three steps forward and two backwards. The audio was never > > > > effected though. > > > > > > > > With "Play with mpv" it """"only"""" hangs. > > > > > > > > Do I really need an new DSL contract with my provider becayse > > > > FF has switched to HTML5 only? > > > > > > > > Can't be...or? > > > > > > It depends. (seriously) > > > > > > What you describe is what I get when I'm using my mobile connection with > > > bad reception. In other words, it does sound like a bandwidth issue. > > > > > > Dave solves that by downloading the files and then watching it locally. > > > > > > What kind of bandwidth (up and down) do you have? And what else is using > > > that connection while you are trying to watch a video? > > > > > > I don't think it's HTML5 at fault, the same amount of data needs to be > > > transfered, but it might be that HTML5 is less bandwidth efficient than > > > Flash. > > > > > > I don't seem to have flash installed on my current machine and am using > > > FF45.5. In there, with Youtube, I do get the option to change the > > > resolution on the video-streams. Don't you get that? > > > > > > -- > > > Joost > > > > I checked the current bandwidth (07:48 am local time) with this > > http://speedcheck.vodafone.de/ > > > > and got: > > 2,1 Mbps download > > 0,1 Mbps upload > > 58 ms latency (ping test) > > > > There is no other kind of task which consumes bandwidth > > (while checking the above or while streaming videos) > > 0,1 Mbps upload... > This is really small. If there is a process that is uploading with 50Kbps > (=0,05Mbps), you will loose HALF of your download. > And 50Kbps is achieved really quickly. > > With this, I would kill any application that might use the internet, like > email. > > Anything less then 10Mbps down / 1Mbps up would not even be considered by me. > > > Another (real odd) possibillitu would be: Someone has > > hijacked my DSL modem (its no router) - its an older > > Fritz! box. > > That's always possible. But unless there is a massive DDOS going on right > now, > I don't think that would be of any use. > > Do you use a network cable or wireless during tests? > > -- > Joost >
Joost, everything is good old fashioned copper... -- Meino
