On Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:41:21 GMT Jorge Almeida wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 1:19 PM Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > Web tabs are fairly highly sandboxed in most browsers.  Suffice it to
> > say something running in a web tab isn't going to be spying on your
> > process list/etc.
> 
> OK, fair enough. I would prefer a browser-only interface anyway, if possible
> 
> (BTW: to your knowledge, does that apply to chrome (not chromium)?
> 
> > An application can basically do absolutely anything you can do from a
> > shell unless you've done something to contain it.  Running it in a
> > container would obviously be one way of containing it. Running it
> > under another UID would be another, though users can generally see all
> > the processes in the system and read any file that is world-readable.
> > 
> > I'm not sure how the flatpak version of zoom that was mentioned
> > earlier is packaged.  I believe flatpak is container-based, but I
> > haven't used it and I can't speak to how well-contained it actually
> > is, either in general or in its implementation of this particular
> > application.  In theory they could make it very secure, but that
> > doesn't mean that they did.
> 
> I'm checking Jitsi. Seems nicer than zoom.
> 
> > Oh, and keep in mind that X11 itself isn't the most secure piece of
> > software in existence.  In particular any window on your desktop can
> > spy on the keyboard input into any other window on your desktop,
> > unless you're employing protective measures that nobody actually
> > employs outside of maybe pinentry (I haven't checked that one and I
> > forget if it is completely modal - as in you can't type in any other
> > x11 window while it is displayed).
> 
> Right. I propose using a dedicated X session, in a VT other than the
> usual one. Having more than one X session alive is easy, at least for
> users of ligthweight stuff like openbox.
> 
> Thanks for the input
> 
> Jorge
> 
> > --
> > Rich

More info on the participation Zoom users /enjoy/, whether they like it and 
have agreed to it, or not:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/k7e599/zoom-ios-app-sends-data-to-facebook-even-if-you-dont-have-a-facebook-account

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