On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 13:06:49 GMT Dale wrote:
> Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 14:18:58 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:20:52 +0000, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > My workstation has one NVMe drive and two SATAs. They're always
> > > > 
> > > > detected in the same order, so I've no need to render my fstab
> > > > 
> > > > illegible with UUIDs. I could use labels, but why bother? The old
> > > > 
> > > > system ain't broke, so I've no need to fix it.
> > > 
> > > But you can fix it in your own time, waiting until it breaks is never
> > > 
> > > convenient.
> > 
> > There's nothing to fix, as I said. I'm happy to stick with the
> > /dev/sdX syntax for as long as it remains valid. Occam's Razor
> > applies: "don't complicate beyond need."
> > 
> > > > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions specified with UUIDs?
> > > > 
> > > > Doesn't bear thinking about.
> > > 
> > > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions? Doesn't bear thinking
> > 
> > about.
> > 
> > 
> > The NVMe drive, the main one, has 18; I could merge some of those and
> > delete a couple that aren't used any more. The packages and distfiles
> > directories don't need separate partitions, for example. I suppose
> > it's a bit like Topsy, who "just growed."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Peter.
> 
> I didn't think I needed to "fix" it either until it hit me and caused
> confusion.  Eventually I figured out it was mounting the wrong thing but
> it was a head scratcher for a while.  I was about to start over when I
> noticed it was mounting the wrong partitions.  I can't recall what
> changed the order but suddenly sda and sdb switched.  Believe me, when I
> got booted, I started setting it up in a way that can't happen again. 
> 
> I might add, the more partitions you have, the more likely this is to
> bite you at some point.  You already have a complicated system with
> chainloading bootloaders and such so Occam left the building long ago. 

Actually I haven't any of those things. Grub, in particular, will never have a 
place in my 
home. I jusr have EFI boot images in the UEFI BIOS. Simple. I do take the 
point, though.

> Do you really need for a hard drive to be recognized differently and
> create problems?  At the very least, labels would be a much better
> option.  Labels like ubuntu-home, ubuntu-usr, or redhat-root, or
> redhat-usr.  Those explain what they are and makes them unique.  If you
> have more than one version, include part of a version if needed. 

I'll think about that the very first time I get sda and sdb reversed. Honest. :)

> You may recall my hatred of the init thingys.  I still hate them.

I do. Me too. I still don't use one.

> I use them because I want the best chance of my system booting and without
> it, that could fail.  It may boot 100 times just fine but then one day, it
> breaks and won't boot anymore without a init thingy.  At that point, I
> get to sit here, most likely with no way to get help, and figure out how
> to fix it.  To me, it's much better to just go ahead and set up using
> the thing and not having to worry about that day hitting me.  It seems
> bad things always happen at the worst moment too. 
> 
> If I can start using a init thingy, using labels should be a easy
> thing.  A walk in the park as the saying goes.  ;-)

Quite so. As I said, I haven't needed to yet, but I'll think about it in due 
course.  :)

You may remember my asking why you need a separate /usr partition. You wouldn't 
need an init thingy if you merged it into the root partition. I have /var 
separate for 
simplicity of backup and recovery, and to contain log-file runaways, but not 
/usr.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

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