On Friday, 25 June 2021 20:15:22 BST antlists wrote: > On 25/06/2021 09:46, Michael wrote: > > On Friday, 25 June 2021 08:50:32 BST antlists wrote: > >> On 23/06/2021 10:11, jdm wrote: > >>> On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:17:41 +0100 > >>> > >>> Michael <confabul...@kintzios.com> wrote: > >>>> On Monday, 21 June 2021 17:27:31 BST Wols Lists wrote: > >>>>> What happens when you get to the end of the handbook? > >>>>> > >>>>> I want to get a working Wayland setup with a (multi-user) graphical > >>>>> login. When I set my old system up ($DEITY knows how long ago) I > >>>>> seem to remember a page on setting up X, and all sorts of stuff. > >>>>> > >>>>> Now, you seem to get dumped at working tty1 prompt, and then the > >>>>> *helpful* documentation JUST STOPS. It doesn't even point you at > >>>>> anything! (Yes it points you at the portage page about how to > >>>>> maintain your system, but that isn't much use if you can't DO > >>>>> anything with the system...) > >>>>> > >>>>> I've found the page on Wayland, but it just says "set this use flag > >>>>> and install two packages". > >>>>> > >>>>> Where's the documentation that tells me what I need, and how to set > >>>>> it up, please ... > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> Wol > >>>> > >>>> Have you tried using a Display Manager? Some of my systems won't > >>>> work with Wayland, but I haven't spent time to find out why all I get > >>>> with them is a black screen. > >>>> > >>>> Anyway, from a VT you'd run something like: > >>>> > >>>> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland dbus-run-session startplasma-wayland > >>>> > >>>> or > >>>> > >>>> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland dbus-run-session gnome-session > >>> > >>> There is a wayland greeter which uses greetd and gtkgreet which may > >>> be worth looking at and there is a gentoo wiki which goes a long with > >>> it. It works with wayfire which is a nice wayland window manager and is > >>> very reliable. > >>> > >>> Also look at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wayland_Desktop_Landscape > >> > >> Thanks, but I'm none the wiser ... the thing is, for X the instructions > >> are simple - "install xorg, run startx". > >> > >> Okay, I've done that and got errors I need to solve, but with Wayland I > >> just don't have a clue. I don't know what I need, I don't know how to > >> start it, all I've got is a pile of bits in a box, and I don't know what > >> to do with them. > >> > >> Everything I find is like a meccano set - there's loads of bits and > >> pieces, but no instructions, and I don't have a clue how they fit > >> together. Where's the recipe that says "do this this and this and you > >> should have a gui"? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Wol > >> > > From what I recall as long as you set USE="wayland" globally and > > re-emerge > > > > world with '--changed-use' you should able to launch your dekstop in > > wayland, rather than Xserver. > > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wayland > > > > There is a caveat, to make things simple: your desktop environment should > > have full support for wayland compositing - e.g. Plasma and Gnome come > > ready baked with their own compositor and will run in Wayland. Window > > managers which do not possess a compositor will require one installed > > separately, as noted in jdm's post, but then we're getting into a box > > with a pile of bits in it. > > > > To launch wayland you can either install a Display Manager and select to > > start wayland from its GUI options, instead of X11, or you can run the > > stanzas I provided above. > > Bear in mind my profile is desktop/plasma/systemd ... > > This is very informative, but it blows up on me ... I've checked that > wayland is in my use flags so that should all be okay ... > > # XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland dbus-run-session startplasma-wayland > ... startplasma-wayland not found ... > > # emerge qtgreet > emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "qtgreet". > > So you've massively helped in that I now know much better how things fit > together, but unfortunately you've also been no help at all in that the > stuff you've pointed at doesn't work ... > > Where do I go from here ... > > Cheers, > Wol
I don't think systemd is different (although I don't use it with Gentoo), unless you want to launch a Display Manager like e.g. sddm. Given your error, you appear to not have installed the requisite packages for the Plasma/KDE. It should have been installed as a dependency of plasma- workspace: $ qfile startplasma-wayland kde-plasma/plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/startplasma-wayland If you have Gnome already installed then you can use the stanza for gnome- session instead.
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