On 26/06/21 00:51, Michael wrote: > On Friday, 25 June 2021 20:15:22 BST antlists wrote: >> On 25/06/2021 09:46, Michael wrote: >>> On Friday, 25 June 2021 08:50:32 BST antlists wrote: >>>> On 23/06/2021 10:11, jdm wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:17:41 +0100 >>>>> >>>>> Michael <confabul...@kintzios.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Monday, 21 June 2021 17:27:31 BST Wols Lists wrote: >>>>>>> What happens when you get to the end of the handbook? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I want to get a working Wayland setup with a (multi-user) graphical >>>>>>> login. When I set my old system up ($DEITY knows how long ago) I >>>>>>> seem to remember a page on setting up X, and all sorts of stuff. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, you seem to get dumped at working tty1 prompt, and then the >>>>>>> *helpful* documentation JUST STOPS. It doesn't even point you at >>>>>>> anything! (Yes it points you at the portage page about how to >>>>>>> maintain your system, but that isn't much use if you can't DO >>>>>>> anything with the system...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've found the page on Wayland, but it just says "set this use flag >>>>>>> and install two packages". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where's the documentation that tells me what I need, and how to set >>>>>>> it up, please ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Wol >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you tried using a Display Manager? Some of my systems won't >>>>>> work with Wayland, but I haven't spent time to find out why all I get >>>>>> with them is a black screen. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, from a VT you'd run something like: >>>>>> >>>>>> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland dbus-run-session startplasma-wayland >>>>>> >>>>>> or >>>>>> >>>>>> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland dbus-run-session gnome-session >>>>> >>>>> There is a wayland greeter which uses greetd and gtkgreet which may >>>>> be worth looking at and there is a gentoo wiki which goes a long with >>>>> it. It works with wayfire which is a nice wayland window manager and is >>>>> very reliable. >>>>> >>>>> Also look at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wayland_Desktop_Landscape >>>> >>>> Thanks, but I'm none the wiser ... the thing is, for X the instructions >>>> are simple - "install xorg, run startx". >>>> >>>> Okay, I've done that and got errors I need to solve, but with Wayland I >>>> just don't have a clue. I don't know what I need, I don't know how to >>>> start it, all I've got is a pile of bits in a box, and I don't know what >>>> to do with them. >>>> >>>> Everything I find is like a meccano set - there's loads of bits and >>>> pieces, but no instructions, and I don't have a clue how they fit >>>> together. Where's the recipe that says "do this this and this and you >>>> should have a gui"? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Wol >>>> >>> From what I recall as long as you set USE="wayland" globally and >>> re-emerge >>> >>> world with '--changed-use' you should able to launch your dekstop in >>> wayland, rather than Xserver. >>> >>> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wayland >>> >>> There is a caveat, to make things simple: your desktop environment should >>> have full support for wayland compositing - e.g. Plasma and Gnome come >>> ready baked with their own compositor and will run in Wayland. Window >>> managers which do not possess a compositor will require one installed >>> separately, as noted in jdm's post, but then we're getting into a box >>> with a pile of bits in it. >>> >>> To launch wayland you can either install a Display Manager and select to >>> start wayland from its GUI options, instead of X11, or you can run the >>> stanzas I provided above. >> >> Bear in mind my profile is desktop/plasma/systemd ... >> >> This is very informative, but it blows up on me ... I've checked that >> wayland is in my use flags so that should all be okay ... >> >> # XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland dbus-run-session startplasma-wayland >> ... startplasma-wayland not found ... >> >> # emerge qtgreet >> emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "qtgreet". >> >> So you've massively helped in that I now know much better how things fit >> together, but unfortunately you've also been no help at all in that the >> stuff you've pointed at doesn't work ... >> >> Where do I go from here ... >> >> Cheers, >> Wol > > I don't think systemd is different (although I don't use it with Gentoo), > unless you want to launch a Display Manager like e.g. sddm.
Looking at sddm, it appears to require X? I might well have to play with that, given that I want a multi-user system (indeed, multi-head) system, but that can wait ... > > Given your error, you appear to not have installed the requisite packages for > the Plasma/KDE. It should have been installed as a dependency of plasma- > workspace: Ah. Another piece of missing information ... I'll try that. I would have thought that would have been pulled in seeing as I've got wayland and qt use flags etc > > $ qfile startplasma-wayland > kde-plasma/plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/startplasma-wayland > > If you have Gnome already installed then you can use the stanza for gnome- > session instead. > My use flags also contain -gtk -gnome ... gnome at least is on my list of pet hates ... Cheers, Wol
