On Tuesday, 23 December 2025 16:01:37 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote:
> Michael wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 23 December 2025 02:12:37 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote:
> >> P. S.  I had to replace the fans on my CPU cooler.  I had a power outage
> >> the other day and when I booted back up, one fan made a little noise.  I
> >> figure the bearings are running dry.  I ordered two replacement fans and
> >> put them in today.  I can't figure out how to take that old fan apart.
> >> I usually take old fans apart and put a few drops of oil in them to use
> >> them for less critical cooling.  CPU fans always get replaced.  No idea
> >> why that fan went out so soon tho. I don't think it is even a year old.
> > 
> > Some older/cheaper plain sleeve bearing fans could be oiled to keep them
> > going for longer.  You'd peel back a sticky label on their top and pry
> > open a plastic dust cap - assuming they were expensive enough to have a
> > dust cap fitted.  A drop or two of very low viscosity oil would re-wet
> > the bearing surface and it will thereafter carry on spinning quieter and
> > faster.
> > 
> > The modern sleeve design of the Fluid Dynamic Bearing (FDB) variety is
> > typically sealed and needs no addition of oil to keep it going.  This
> > assumes you didn't buy some alibaba discount 'special' whereby the
> > manufacturer was economising on every oil drop on the assembly line to
> > cut costs.  The shaft on the FDB construction may have magnetic
> > support/centralisation, is secured with a lock washer and the bearing is
> > sealed to stop dirt from going in, or the oil from evaporating too soon. 
> > If you try to pull off the fan from its armature by force you will most
> > likely break it, but YMMV.
> > 
> > Even a plain sleeve bearing should have the best part of 3-5 years life
> > depending on temperature and vibration/orientation, before it starts
> > rattling. I suspect yours was poorly manufactured.  I want to think
> > reputable manufacturers of expensive kit would be interested to
> > investigate the failure mode of this fan bearing, so you could try
> > RMA'ing it.
> 
> I've done the oiling thing numerous times.  That fan tho, has no bearing
> access at all.  I checked both sides.  It's solid plastic.  I also can't
> pull the blades off either.  It seems that this style of fan once put
> together, locks into place and can't be taken apart or have a way to get
> to the shaft/bearings. 

Yes, as I've mentioned above the spindle on FDBs is locked in place with a 
locking ring/washer and the end cap is usually moulded or ultrasonically 
welded to stop dirt going in and oil leaking out.


> The fan that was making noise is a Thermalright 120mm, gray in color and
> a 4 pin connector.  I've never seen one that I couldn't peel that
> sticker back and not be able to oil it a bit.  Seems they figured out
> what we doing instead of buying new fans.  ;-) 

The fans you can peel off the sticker and add oil yourself, typically have 
plain sleeve bearings.  As far as I can tell the Thermalright 120mm CPU fans 
have the Sony FDB fans in them and they are sealed.  If you take them apart 
you'll break them, potentially irreparably.
 

> I use the thinnest oil I can find.  I used to use some oil that I use on
> firearms.  It was thin and some of the slickest stuff there is.  A
> couple drops goes a long ways.  Then I found 3-in-1 oil made just for
> motors.  Fairly thin and made for motor bearings.  I admit tho, when I
> oiled the fan motor in my fridge, on the freezer side, I used the oil I
> use in firearms.  It can handle cold a lot better and it is cold in the
> freezer.  That was a few years ago now.  Still running good. 

3-in-1 oil, or even thinner(?) sewing machine oil, or perhaps fully synthetic 
0W-8 motor oil will work nicely, as long as the sleeve bearing is accessible.  
Since this Thermalright fan of yours failed so soon, I'd be minded to RMA it.

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