Willie Wong wrote:
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:02:53PM -0600, Penguin Lover John Jolet squawked:
_javascript_ is, in fact, not java. typically, in the context of web
sites, java is run server-side and essentially returns html for your
Not quite. Java applets are mostly run client side, with possibly
a server-side counterpart for communications.
browser to interpret. _javascript_, on the other hand, was, I believe,
developed by netscape, not sun. they just called it that because it
has some similarities with java. it is client-side, like microsoft's
proprietary activex technology. Their response was probably fine,
since there is, in fact, no java in _javascript_, despite the name. :)
Oddly enough, I had no problems with the smith and noble website with
firefox on my gentoo laptop...but that was a few months ago.
Also, I can reproduce the error on
http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150
with firefox 1.0.7-r2 and mozilla-1.7.12-r2
_javascript_ Console on both shows the following:
Error: document.frm_bundle.heroImage has no properties
SourceFile: http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150 line 114
For what it's worth, I believe those people reporting "success" might
be trying the wrong page. The website redirects all deep-links to the
front page.
To reproduce the error, go to the frontpage of smith and noble, on the
left hand side, click Photo Gallery. Choose an arbitrary gallery from
the right when it appears, open up _javascript_ console from
"Tools->_javascript_ console" in Firefox or "Tools->Web
development->_javascript_ Console" in Mozilla. Click on one of the
thumbnails on the right (the hyperlink should say
"_javascript_.switchImage(2)"), and see the image fail to load.
To the OP: that might also be one of the reasons your bug was marked
invalid. They cannot reproduce the error from the description you
gave.
>From my limited knowledge of _javascript_, I can't tell whether it is
a badly written _javascript_ that parses in IE but not in Firefox, or
Firefox not supporting the full "standard", or perhaps the
site-designer used some IE-only extensions.
I haven't tried Opera or Konqueror (don't have either installed). Any
input?
W
I just tried it with Konqueror and it is even worse: they display a
message stating that
they only support IE and Netscape. Wich means Firefox should be ok.
It does work for me with Firefox
(Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051211
Firefox/1.0.7),
but the _javascript_ console signals lots of warnings. Most likely, their
_javascript_ is the culprit.
As for the _javascript_ vs Java thing, they are two entirely different
programing languages.
Java is mostly used for bigger 'standalone' applications, when
_javascript_ is mostly used
to add behavior to web pages (open popups, disable form fields, etc...).
Their names' similarity is misleading.
My 0.02 €
Maxime
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