Dale schreef: > On Tuesday 17 January 2006 23:00, Richard Fish wrote: >> find ~/.mozilla -name prefs.js -exec grep "mail.smtpserver" {} \; > > > This is on my old install. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # find home/dale/.mozilla -name prefs.js -exec grep > "mail.smtpserver" {} \; > user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp1.auth_method", 1); > user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp1.hostname", "mail.exceedtech.net"); > user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp1.port", 25); > user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp1.try_ssl", 0); > user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp1.username", "dalek"); > user_pref("mail.smtpservers", "smtp1"); [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # > > > This is from the new install that I mounted on /mnt/gentoo, you know, > like in the install guide. LOL > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # find /mnt/gentoo/home/dale/.mozilla -name prefs.js > -exec grep "mail.smtpserver" {} \; > user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp1.auth_method", 1); > user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp1.hostname", "mail.exceedtech.net"); > user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp1.port", 25); > user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp1.try_ssl", 0); > user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp1.username", "dalek"); > user_pref("mail.smtpservers", "smtp1"); [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # > > Well, this may explain why neither one works. They are the same. > Does that look right??
Looks right to me; these are the same settings I have in Thunderbird (with different hostname and username, of course), and I don't have any problems. What I don't get is why moz is trying to relay directly. I'm no mail/network guru, but I do know that if I send a mail to someone outside my network (like, for example, the list), *I* don't relay (send the mail via another ssmtp server) but rather I send it to my ISP and *they* relay it (just like snail mail; I drop the letter in the post box near me and the Postal Service takes it to the next "node" in the town where the recipient lives, and *their* local mail service delivers it. It's not like if I want to write somebody in NYC, I have to mail the letter *in* NYC for it to be delivered...!) About all I can ask at this point is: 1) what version of Mozilla are you using? What are your USE flags for your installation? Have you checked b.g.o or mozillazine (http://www.mozillazine.org/ ) to see if this is perhaps a known bug of your version of Mozilla? Have you tried upgrading (maybe it's a bug that's fixed in later versions)? 2) If you go to Edit=>Preferences=>Account Preferences=>Outgoing server (SMTP), is there more than one server listed, and is your ISP's server selected as "standard"? Like Iain, I had similar problems (a long time ago) when attempting to send mail via my home ISP from work, where we had a different ISP, which wouldn't work because I was logged into my work's mail server (of course), and not my home ISP's SMTP server, so my home ISP wasn't going to send my mail, since I wasn't an authorized user (not logged in). It's hard to believe that there isn't *some* problem with your SMTP settings that we're missing, though there is no error to be seen, and of course KMail is presumably set the same way, and *that* works.... 3) I'm wondering if this isn't a Mozilla problem; very curious as to whether Thunderbird would exhibit it as well. If you want to try it, you can use the same mail folders and settings as Mozilla, which I can quickly tell you how to set up (it's like 5 steps, if T-bird doesn't just offer to import the Mozilla settings for you) if you decide to try it. Also curious as to whether there's *any difference whatsoever* between your KMail settings and your Mozilla settings (yes, it's fine-toothed-comb time). 4) I'm also wondering if this is a "local" problem (to a specific "outside" address), or a "general" problem (to any outside address). Have you tested mail to multiple/different outside addresses, or just one? If just one, maybe that one is the problem. You can send me a test mail; I'm certainly outside your local network :-) . 5) It's a long shot, but is there any possibility that you're sending to an outside address to which your ISP will *not* relay, i.e. someplace that *cough* Homeland Security doesn't want you writing to (maybe you have a relative in the service, I don't know)? If there are such domains (and I'm sure there are), it's within the (distant, we hope) realm of possiblility that your ISP is being excessively cautious in order to avoid any spotlight of investigation falling on them. 6) I don't know much (all right, anything) about sending command-line mail, but there must be a way to get a "traceroute" of a mail. Maybe somebody here knows how we could get some useful output about what happens when this mail pretends to relay itself for some reason. > I just thought of something. My new install has two accounts, the > dalek one and my new one rdalek. Where's rdalek?? I'm going to > change later and get rid of some spam, I hope. > > I had to fill in the user directories since I was logged in as root. > Root don't have a .mozilla directory. Regular users don't have any rights to read root's home directory. Probably Mozilla can't even see the account unless you're logged in as root. > > I'm open to trying something here. I'm going to check my brothers > ISP in a few more hours. If it works, something fishy at my ISP. If > not, I have a problem here, and no clue what to do. > That's a good idea. No matter what your ISP says, it still could be something fishy with them (Customer Service isn't always told every little detail about what's going on with the service, and they can't help you solve a problem they don't know about). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list