i know ati drivers suck but i booted the live cd on my x300se card so
i guess it's not really the problem.. maybe the screen don't support
the resolution set by default (1024 x 768 was the resolution the live
cd set by default on my pc and it worked great)

On 3/8/06, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman schreef:
> > Well I'm stumped. Every time I boot the live cd it gets to where
> > Gnome should start then the monitor goes off. Does any one know what
> > video drivers the live cd uses? Alvin
> >
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> What video card do you have and what drivers?
>
> I've had similar problems (not with this graphical live CD, since I
> installed Gentoo before it existed, but with X applications and X
> itself), because I have an ATI card. ATI cards do do that (just shut
> down the monitor) if 1) using the wrong drivers ("radeon" when card
> model is one above the 9(2/5?)50 (sorry, can't remember which model is
> the stopper for the Open Source drivers), and/or 2) DGA is enabled for
> the fglrx drivers (this will do exactly what you described; it has many
> times for me, and it is just one of the many PITAs with the fglrx drivers).
>
> The thing is-- in theory, I have no evidence to support this-- that
> GNOME (I am a GNOME user as opposed to a KDE user, though I don't use
> either of those DE's regularly or "first" during a new install due to
> their size) appears to require 3D support be working in order to load
> properly. Or at least, the hardware acceleration must be working if
> you're using drivers that supposedly support said acceleration. As I
> said, I have no evidence for this /per se/; it's just my theory based on
> experience. If you're using the 'vesa' drivers (which don't support 3D),
> I betcha GNOME will load fine (at least it always does for me), but as
> soon as you load drivers in your X config that are supposed to support
> hardware acceleration/OpenGL/3D, GNOME will break if that support is
> broken (even though, afaik, no basic operation of GNOME actually uses
> 3D-- that's why this is a "theory" and seemingly rather a crackpot one,
> but it's the only theory that fits my experience).
>
> So I would suggest first changing your xorg.conf to load the vesa
> drivers, which should load (that's what they're for, default drivers
> that should always be able to load and display), then editing your
> xorg.conf to resolve the "obvious" problem that it must have.  Some
> option or driver causes your video card to stop sending a signal. I know
> that >=9600 ATI cards do this when DGA is enabled on the fglrx drivers,
> and also that >=9(2/5?)50 cards do strange things when using the
> "radeon" drivers which don't support these models for hardware
> acceleration, as opposed to the "fglrx" drivers which do-- but  the
> LiveCDs will tend to (in my experience) recognize my 9800SE as an ATI
> card and load the "radeon" drivers incorrectly because the "fglrx"
> drivers that the card needs are not open source... and the "radeon"
> drivers don't actually work properly for my card. But you may have a
> different brand of card, or it could be a different option causing this.
>
> You might want to copy /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a backup location before
> you try to start X with the vesa drivers (since the vesa drivers should
> load correctly, it will overwrite the log with the errors and you need
> to know what they are, so backup the log with the errors first, is that
> I'm suggesting).
>
> But the first thing we'd have to know is what is the video card, and
> what are the loaded drivers; then we can work on things like what video
> options you set in the kernel, and what you've got for modelines and the
> like in xorg.conf (though I doubt that the issue is modelines, since
> that just knocks you out fo X completely with a "no screens found"
> error, not kills your signal between video card and monitor while
> leaving X actually running).
>
> Anyway, hope this helps.
> Holly
>
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