On 3/29/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How soon do you think we'll see laptops with the Dual Core Turion64? > > Summer. Got to have them out in time for back-to-school purchasing, right? > > > > > Elsewhere (perhaps on this list on a different topic) someone > > recommended not buying anything except for 64 bits (either AMD or Intel) > > from now on. Do you agree, in particular regarding laptops? > > No, but others are going to disagree with me! > > Nobody is currently producing laptops that can have over 4G of memory > (in fact, 2G is the max today in a laptop). And for my AMD desktop at
www.alienware.com I beg to differ. I could have sworn I saw a laptop with more than 2G... where was it... wow! You appear to be right! Darn.. I could have SWORN I saw something with > 2G... > home, I don't see much difference between 64 and 32-bit programs. The > programs I am most interested in running fast are compression, > encryption, media encoding, and the like...standard desktop type uses. There is a big difference. You most likely aren't running with software compiled for 64-bit, or software that wasn't designed to take advantage of 64-bit, rather targeting 32-bit and just praying the compiler helps with the 64-bit part. It gets a bit technical, but there is a big difference between something made from the ground up as 64-bit versus something that was made 32-bit and just recompiled 64-bit. > Some things are slightly faster in 32-bit, some things are slightly > faster in 64-bit, but neither mode seems to have a definitive > advantage. Yes, with the unfairness of the compiler, that is true. It's a lot like if you had a car that could go 200MPH. Your driver may only hit 80MPH (the 32-bit code on a 64-bit chip), but then you get a driver trained for 200MPH driving, and then he actually hits 200MPH (the 64-bit code). It's like the good data in good data out / bad data in bad data out theory. > So unless and until you require more memory or specific applications, > I don't think you need to worry about 64-bit. Well, I think we must include bragging rights into our deliberation. That's a major part of it, too. Even though some people may never use more than a whole MHz of their PC, they still like to brag ; ) PS: I'm not one of them. If there were a law against computer abuse, I'd be locked up for life - It pains me to see a CPU idling. > -Richard > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- ========== GCv3.12 ========== GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+>++++ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y ========= END GCv3.12 ======== -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list