Hi all,

Ed Miliband, Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change, is going to 
Poznan today.  I have given him a copy of my proposal.  But I'm pretty sure 
he will not appreciate the danger from Arctic sea ice disappearance, nor 
appreciate the possibility of geoengineering to prevent it happening.  He 
needs briefing.

Is anybody still at Poznan, from this group?  Or do you know anybody there, 
who might talk to Mr Miliband?

And, Oliver, I'd be personally interested in your "initial idea".  Email me 
privately if you like.  I want as many good ideas as possible to save the 
sea ice!

Cheers,

John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Oliver Wingenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "geoengineering" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:53 AM
Subject: [geo] Re: Geoengineering Must be Appear in Declarations for Poznan 
 >> encl. Statement by His Excellency President Morales for the Poznan 
Conference



Dear John,

Scott Elliot and I are have an initial idea we are working on that
could have a desired impact on the Arctic.  If the idea is viable we
will submit a paper soon.

Oliver Wingenter

On Dec 4, 8:17 am, "John Nissen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There seems to be no mention of the so-called "tipping points", such as 
> the Arctic sea ice disappearance, which pose a threat too immediate for 
> emissions reduction to counter.
>
> We could ask two simple questions to the Poznan conference (1-12 
> December):
>
> 1. Is there an alternative to geoengineering to cool the Arctic region and 
> save the Arctic sea ice?
>
> 2. If not, isn't now the time to start putting geoengineering into 
> practice, before it's too late even for geoengineering?
>
> Is there anybody who knows how to get such questions asked, at very short 
> notice?
>
> And if the geoengineering is to start in the Arctic, should we not seek 
> the support of the Arctic Council? Albert, can you advise?
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
> P.S. Might the appropriate time to raise the geoengineering issue be 
> during "statement of observers"
> Seehttp://www.cop14.gov.pl/files/Program_COP14.pdf
>
> 9. Statements by observer organizations
>
> 55. Representatives of intergovernmental organizations and 
> non-governmental organizations will be
>
> invited to address the CMP. Further information will be made available.



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