I agree, too.

Alan

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On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, [email protected] wrote:

>
> I agree completely -- a bad idea.
>
> Tom.
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> I think the development of a board like this at this time is
>> counter-productive and a bad idea.
>>
>> As scientists, we should be attempting to provide new information and not
>> passing judgment on what ought or ought not to be done.
>>
>> As citizens, we should be saying what we think ought to be done, but we
>> have
>> no special authority to balance diverse competing interests that go far
>> beyond the domain of the environmental sciences.
>>
>> At this point, I think it far better to promote reasoned discussion of
>> these
>> complex and emotive issues than to set ourselves up as if we are in a
>> position to collectively pass judgment.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> ___________________________________________________
>> Ken Caldeira
>>
>> Carnegie Institution Dept of Global Ecology
>> 260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA
>>
>> [email protected]; [email protected]
>> http://dge.stanford.edu/DGE/CIWDGE/labs/caldeiralab
>> +1 650 704 7212; fax: +1 650 462 5968
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Andrew Lockley
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I fully endorse the comments below and I respectfully ask the notable
>>> Scientists among us to put their names forward for a role in the
>>> advisory board of an 'Institute of Geoengineering' which would fulfil
>>> this function and others.
>>>
>>> A
>>>
>>> 2009/1/11 Oliver Wingenter <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> I think the time is rapidly approaching that a Geoengineering Projects
>>>> Evaluation Panel (or something like it) be set up to evaluate and
>>>> recommend projects for deployment.
>>>>
>>>> We don't need the likes Dr. Dogooder, his trusted colleagues, backed
>>>> by the Mr.BigandRich Foundation or the Crowned Prince of Dubai going
>>>> out and Cowboying it.  Plans for a large scale geoengineering need to
>>>> well thought out.  There exists potential projects that can be done at
>>>> the 1 to 10s million dollar range.
>>>>
>>>> The Board should international in nature and be composed of scientists
>>>> from many disciplines.  A seemingly innocent regional project may have
>>>> the potential to disrupt global dynamics if a key temperature or
>>>> buoyancy gradients are disrupted.  Plans for a pilot research projects
>>>> should be quickly separated from larger scale activities so as not to
>>>> burden research as in theLOHAFEX case.  The board should have at its
>>>> disposal sufficient expertise and resources to do independent modeling
>>>> studies to verify claims of the applicant and to bring out possible
>>>> unforeseen consequences. The panel's mission should not be just to
>>>> tear down projects but to aim to improve them.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Oliver Wingenter
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> >

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