For what its worth so do I. Completely. I think the intentions you have need to be accomplished in other ways.
Dan On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Alan Robock <[email protected]>wrote: > > I agree, too. > > Alan > > Alan Robock, Professor II > Director, Meteorology Undergraduate Program > Associate Director, Center for Environmental Prediction > Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-732-932-9800 x6222 > Rutgers University Fax: +1-732-932-8644 > 14 College Farm Road E-mail: [email protected] > New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551 USA > http://envsci.rutgers.edu/~robock<http://envsci.rutgers.edu/%7Erobock> > > > On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > I agree completely -- a bad idea. > > > > Tom. > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > >> Andrew, > >> > >> I think the development of a board like this at this time is > >> counter-productive and a bad idea. > >> > >> As scientists, we should be attempting to provide new information and > not > >> passing judgment on what ought or ought not to be done. > >> > >> As citizens, we should be saying what we think ought to be done, but we > >> have > >> no special authority to balance diverse competing interests that go far > >> beyond the domain of the environmental sciences. > >> > >> At this point, I think it far better to promote reasoned discussion of > >> these > >> complex and emotive issues than to set ourselves up as if we are in a > >> position to collectively pass judgment. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Ken > >> > >> ___________________________________________________ > >> Ken Caldeira > >> > >> Carnegie Institution Dept of Global Ecology > >> 260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA > >> > >> [email protected]; [email protected] > >> http://dge.stanford.edu/DGE/CIWDGE/labs/caldeiralab > >> +1 650 704 7212; fax: +1 650 462 5968 > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Andrew Lockley > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I fully endorse the comments below and I respectfully ask the notable > >>> Scientists among us to put their names forward for a role in the > >>> advisory board of an 'Institute of Geoengineering' which would fulfil > >>> this function and others. > >>> > >>> A > >>> > >>> 2009/1/11 Oliver Wingenter <[email protected]>: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Colleagues, > >>>> > >>>> I think the time is rapidly approaching that a Geoengineering Projects > >>>> Evaluation Panel (or something like it) be set up to evaluate and > >>>> recommend projects for deployment. > >>>> > >>>> We don't need the likes Dr. Dogooder, his trusted colleagues, backed > >>>> by the Mr.BigandRich Foundation or the Crowned Prince of Dubai going > >>>> out and Cowboying it. Plans for a large scale geoengineering need to > >>>> well thought out. There exists potential projects that can be done at > >>>> the 1 to 10s million dollar range. > >>>> > >>>> The Board should international in nature and be composed of scientists > >>>> from many disciplines. A seemingly innocent regional project may have > >>>> the potential to disrupt global dynamics if a key temperature or > >>>> buoyancy gradients are disrupted. Plans for a pilot research projects > >>>> should be quickly separated from larger scale activities so as not to > >>>> burden research as in theLOHAFEX case. The board should have at its > >>>> disposal sufficient expertise and resources to do independent modeling > >>>> studies to verify claims of the applicant and to bring out possible > >>>> unforeseen consequences. The panel's mission should not be just to > >>>> tear down projects but to aim to improve them. > >>>> > >>>> Sincerely, > >>>> > >>>> Oliver Wingenter > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
