This is "re attempt to promote pyrolysis of biomass": was that attempt posted here? Do you have a link handy?
On Jan 27, 6:47 pm, Ken Caldeira <[email protected]> wrote: > James, > > Everything unfortunately is a long uphill slog because everybody is very > busy and enamored with their own beliefs and ideas. Also, humans are herd > animals and nobody likes to stray too far from the herd for fear that the > lions will attack. > > The geoengineering google group has a bunch of people some of whom are > well-connected and many of whom will be sympathetic to your point of view. I > would try that path. You may find some allies there that will help you to > find a broader audience. > > Best, > > Ken > > PS. In the first paragraph above, I am partially describing myself and > partially describing my experiences promoting what seemed to me to be good > ideas. > > ___________________________________________________ > Ken Caldeira > > Carnegie Institution Dept of Global Ecology > 260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA > > [email protected]; > [email protected]http://dge.stanford.edu/DGE/CIWDGE/labs/caldeiralab > +1 650 704 7212; fax: +1 650 462 5968 > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:57 AM, James Singmaster III < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for the comment. You have been sounding somewhat concerned and have > > some contact with some of the listed. Don't you want to find out if they > > are concerned? Most of the people supposedly are involved with various > > aspects of global warming. If some scientists do not start speaking up, a > > lot of pump-priming money may go to be wasted on "Clean Coal" and Biofuels. > > Again thank you for responding. Jim > > > On Jan 27, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Ken Caldeira wrote: > > > James, > > >> Rather than bombarding a long cc-list with your comments, you should take > >> your discussion to the geoengineering google group for comment: > > >> [email protected] > >>http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering > > >> Bombarding this group of people with unsolicted email is probably not your > >> most effective path forward. > > >> Best, > > >> Ken > > >> ___________________________________________________ > >> Ken Caldeira > > >> Carnegie Institution Dept of Global Ecology > >> 260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA > > >> [email protected]; [email protected] > >>http://dge.stanford.edu/DGE/CIWDGE/labs/caldeiralab > >> +1 650 704 7212; fax: +1 650 462 5968 > > >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:05 PM, James Singmaster III < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > > >>> Begin forwarded message: Are scientists just going to keep spinning > >>> wheels on global warming with more and more prognostications and charts > >>> and > >>> calls for more useless measurements without seeing the garbage in their > >>> faces? Scientists it seems are more interested still in publishing even > >>> if > >>> our descendants will be perishing from no real action on global warming, > >>> but > >>> they will be comforted by the papers that many scientists have published > >>> on > >>> GW problems without actions, I am sure. Let's get real and get action > >>> instead of papermill work by getting what is mainly a great paper pile in > >>> organic wastes stopped from reemitting GHGs. > >>> I find it hard to believe that no one considered at the G8 meeting > >>> last summer that organic wastes and sewage mishandling is the major source > >>> of water pollution and attendant diseases. Won't some of you get public > >>> consideration of the organic wastes and sewage messes as developing into > >>> unneeded environmental crises for public health as well as being a > >>> controllable source of some unneeded GHG emissions? Dr. J. Singmaster > > >>> From: James Singmaster III <[email protected]> > >>>> Date: January 26, 2009 4:00:29 PM PST > >>>> To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > >>>> [email protected], Ken Caldeira <[email protected]>, Miguel > >>>> Altieri <[email protected]>, [email protected], > >>>> [email protected], [email protected], > >>>> [email protected], [email protected], > >>>> [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > >>>> [email protected], Burton Richter <[email protected]>, > >>>> [email protected], [email protected], Ignacio Chapela < > >>>> [email protected]> > >>>> Subject: Fwd: SF Chron Headline Today, Jan, 26 on Slowing Warming means > >>>> NOTHING---FURTHER UPDATE > > >>>> Begin forwarded message: I missed seeing the James Lovelock interview > >>>> on line at New Scientist, Jan. 23, in which he said that the only way to > >>>> beat global warming was by making charcoal from farm residues without > >>>> considering the non-farm organic waste and sewage messes as a source of > >>>> biocarbon to be converted to charcoal. Again pyrolyzing those messes has > >>>> the big added benefit of destroying germs, toxics and drugs that are > >>>> escaping present handling to be causing increasing water pollution > >>>> problems. > >>>> Dr. J. Singmaster > > >>>>> From: James Singmaster III <[email protected]> > >>>>> Date: January 26, 2009 9:38:06 AM PST > >>>>> To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > >>>>> [email protected], Ken Caldeira <[email protected]>, > >>>>> Miguel Altieri <[email protected]>, > >>>>> [email protected], [email protected], > >>>>> [email protected], [email protected], > >>>>> [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > >>>>> [email protected], Burton Richter < > >>>>> [email protected]>, Ignacio Chapela < > >>>>> [email protected]>, [email protected], [email protected], > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> Cc: [email protected], [email protected], > >>>>> [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > >>>>> [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] > >>>>> Subject: SF Chron Headline Today, Jan, 26 on Slowing Warming means > >>>>> NOTHING > > >>>>> When will someone wake up that we have to get some reversing of > >>>>> warming meaning getting some removal of carbon dioxide from the > >>>>> biosphere. > >>>>> I again point to the pyrolysis program that I have sent to most of you > >>>>> as > >>>>> being a way to convert some biochemical carbon in organic wastes and > >>>>> sewage > >>>>> into inert charcoal. Get officials and and others alerted that we are > >>>>> already too warming and need more action on whatever means can be > >>>>> developed > >>>>> to get some actual reduction in our carbon footprint. Slowing warming > >>>>> means > >>>>> slowing the footprint's growth not shrinking it so worsening warming > >>>>> effects > >>>>> will continue. Start thinking about your descendants' survival. > >>>>> Dr. James Singmaster, Environmental Toxicologist, Ret., Fremont, CA > >>>>> (510)797-3790. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
