So, Alvia, are you needling Ken? Or  are you genuinely asking whether
or not scientists should be advocates?

On Apr 10, 1:57 pm, "Alvia Gaskill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Recently seen on wall at UC Berkeley:  IN CASE OF FIRE, DO NOT CALL INEZ
> FUNG*.  And the interview with Caldeira once again demonstrates why he is
> such an effective advocate for geoengineering research.  Or maybe he isn't.
> Or maybe he shouldn't try to be.  Or maybe it doesn't matter if he is or
> not.  Or if something really bad happens, someone else can be an effective
> spokesman for geoengineering research or maybe not.  I'm not sure.  What do
> you think Ken?
>
> *Also, in case of Type II Diabetes, don't ask Inez Fung for advice on drug
> therapies, cause it's just treatin' the symptoms and you won't last long
> enough for the cure anyway.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dasilva" <[email protected]>
> To: "geoengineering" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:20 PM
> Subject: [geo] geoeng. article in the Virginia Quarterly Review
>
> See "The Ass's Dilemma"
>
> http://www.vqronline.org/articles/2009/spring/joseph-climate-engineer...
>
> Here's an exerpt:
>
> “I’m not a fan,” Inez Fung said flatly when I asked her opinion of
> stratospheric aerosol injection. A petite woman in a pageboy haircut,
> Fung is a prominent figure in climatology—professor of atmospheric
> science at the University of California, Berkeley, co-director of the
> Berkeley Institute of the Environment, and, like Caldeira, a
> contributor to the IPCC, which, in 2008, shared the Nobel Peace Prize
> with Al Gore. I met her in her office last April in Berkeley’s McCone
> Hall. She sat in her office chair, arms folded tightly across her
> chest, one foot bobbing impatiently under the desk.
>
> “You don’t think it could serve as an insurance policy in the event of
> abrupt climate change?” I asked.
>
> “Heavens, no. What abrupt climate changes are you worried about?”
>
> “Well, what if the Greenland ice sheet starts to go far faster than
> anticipated? Would it make sense then to decrease temperatures in the
> hopes of stopping that process, since we’re talking about something
> like a twenty-foot rise in sea level? Would the ramifications be so
> serious that we could justify . . . ?”
>
> “I think a much more important thing is to say sea level will rise,”
> she answered. “Preventing it is just delaying it. I mean all this
> geoengineering is just delaying . . . It’s gonna go sooner or later.”
>
> “But wouldn’t it at least buy us time?”
>
> “What are we doing in the interim if the whole strategy is to buy
> time? If we just continue to squander energy, I wouldn’t support it.”
>
> Her foot bounced under her desk.
>
> “Geoengineering is not science fiction, okay?” she continued. “How do
> we test it? How do we know that it would work? The scientist’s
> responsibility is not just to propose wild ideas. The scientist’s
> responsibility is to say, ‘How do we test them?’”
>
> Her frustration seemed to grow as our interview progressed, and when I
> finally gathered my things to leave, I thanked her for putting up with
> my questions. She said, “No, no, it’s important not to just look at
> what is the last resort and ignore responsible action. It’s very
> American to want a quick fix, but the energy problem is the principal
> challenge for humankind—the two energy problems: not just the
> squandering of energy, but also the imbalance in energy access in the
> world.”
>
> “Sure,” I answered, “but recognizing that doesn’t do anything to solve
> the problem of climate change.”
>
> She took a deep breath before answering wearily. “There is no solving
> the problem. There is no solving the problem. All it is is slowing the
> symptoms.”

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