Dear Eugene--In that the climate was cooling over the last 5-6000 years or
so until the warming during the late 19th and through the 20th century, what
is it that underpins your belief that the climate would be warming now in
the absence of human activities? And, to convince anyone, you had better
relate it to some causal factor and not just suggest there is some cycle
from some single point with no underlying physical cause.

Mike M


On 4/30/09 5:16 PM, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> I keep saying it but you all seem to either disagree, but say nothing, or do
> not understand. While a higher concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere should
> increase average surface temperature through what is improperly called the
> greenhouse effect, the average surface temperature would be increasing in
> any case independent of anthropogenic emissions. It is what the Earth has
> done many times in the past and is doing again quite independent of AGW. So
> even if we stopped all anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions tomorrow, the
> Earth would continue to warm; albeit more slowly and not monotonically; but
> warm it will. Ultimately geoengineering will be needed independent of
> whether we cease the AGW component or not. Don't view geoengineering as a
> stopgap until we can get out act together. It will prove to be essential.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:15 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: geoengineering
> Subject: [geo] Re: Televised debate
> 
> 
> Are you crazy? This is not the question. No-one on the geoeng "side"
> is suggesting we give up on mitigation. We MUST MUST MUST do this.
> Geoeng will (in my view) probably needed as well.
> 
> Please see my paper on Combined Mitigation and Geoeng in Science a couple of
> years ago.
> 
> Tom.
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++
> 
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> We at One Planet Pictures are interested in setting up a televised
>> debate on geoengineering. Something on the lines of: "This house
>> believes we should give up trying to reduce emissions and concentrate
>> instead on finding a technofix".
>> 
>> Can anyone suggest any companies or institutions that might be
>> interested in sponsoring such a debate?
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Gus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 



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