So all of a sudden you are tax experts. Why don't you stick to climate
control issues about which you know something..

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Subject: [geo] Re: Funding air capture and CCS


Not that I'm a big fan of flying, but it is more economically sensible to
tax where substitutes are readily available.  For example, coal fired power
stations can be replaced by wind. 

I suggest that we move this discussion off list, it's not geoeng.

I note United Airlines? are trialling biofuel planes, and I note further
that biofuels may have a higher net carbon impact than fossil fuels.

A


2009/5/9 Stephen Salter <[email protected]>


Hi All

It might be possible to fly without releasing carbon.  The attached
paper suggest how this might work.

Stephen

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Sam Carana wrote:
> A cap-and-trade scheme would make flights more expensive. However, I
> doubt that this would reduce the emissions caused by aviation. It's
> typically the rich that fly airplanes. The poor don't fly long
> distances a lot. Apart from the rich, there are other sectors such as
> government bureacrats, diplomats and the military that don't respond
> well to price incentives. Additionally, aviation is a growth industry.
>
> The best way to tackle the problem is therefore to impose fees on
> fossil fuel and use the proceeds to fund carbon-negative activities,
> such as air capture and improving land usage (biochar, afforestation,
> etc). This will have the double impact of discouraging the use of
> fossil fuel, while at the same time encouraging carbon-negative
> activities, which makes the overall policy doubly effective.
>
> In conclusion, aviation seems a good place to start with fees tied to
> funding of carbon-negative activities. At UN climate talks in Bonn,
> the world's poorest nations proposed a levy of about $6 on every
> flight (excluding air freight). The levy could raise up to $10 billion
> per year and would increase the average price of an international
> long-haul fare by less than 1% for standard class passengers, but up
> to $62 for people traveling first class, according to a report in the
> Guardian.
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/apr/06/aviation-climate-change-ta
x
>
> In the light of those amounts, it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect
> that fees imposed on conventional jet fuel could raise billions per
> year. Proceeds could then be used to fund rebates on air capture of
> carbon dioxide, which could be pumped into the bags on location to
> enhance algae growth. Air capture devices could be powered by surplus
> energy from offshore wind turbines. With the help of such funding, the
> entire infrastructure could be set up quickly, helping the
> environment, creating job opportunities, making the US less dependent
> on oil imports, while leaving us with more land and water to grow
> food, resulting in lower food prices.
> http://my.nowpublic.com/environment/funding-co2-air-capture
>
> Cheers!
> Sam Carana
>
>
>





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