With respect Eugene, I have more qualifications in economics than I do in climate science. I've also got ample experience dealing with legislative changes through my work in NGOs. A
2009/5/9 Eugene I. Gordon <[email protected]> > So all of a sudden you are tax experts. Why don't you stick to climate > control issues about which you know something.. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Lockley > *Sent:* Saturday, May 09, 2009 11:40 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Cc:* [email protected]; geoengineering > *Subject:* [geo] Re: Funding air capture and CCS > > Not that I'm a big fan of flying, but it is more economically sensible to > tax where substitutes are readily available. For example, coal fired power > stations can be replaced by wind. > I suggest that we move this discussion off list, it's not geoeng. > > I note United Airlines? are trialling biofuel planes, and I note further > that biofuels may have a higher net carbon impact than fossil fuels. > > A > > 2009/5/9 Stephen Salter <[email protected]> > >> Hi All >> >> It might be possible to fly without releasing carbon. The attached >> paper suggest how this might work. >> >> Stephen >> >> Emeritus Professor of Engineering Design >> School of Engineering and Electronics >> University of Edinburgh >> Mayfield Road >> Edinburgh EH9 3JL >> Scotland >> tel +44 131 650 5704 >> fax +44 131 650 5702 >> Mobile 07795 203 195 >> [email protected] >> http://www.see.ed.ac.uk/~shs >> >> >> Sam Carana wrote: >> > A cap-and-trade scheme would make flights more expensive. However, I >> > doubt that this would reduce the emissions caused by aviation. It's >> > typically the rich that fly airplanes. The poor don't fly long >> > distances a lot. Apart from the rich, there are other sectors such as >> > government bureacrats, diplomats and the military that don't respond >> > well to price incentives. Additionally, aviation is a growth industry. >> > >> > The best way to tackle the problem is therefore to impose fees on >> > fossil fuel and use the proceeds to fund carbon-negative activities, >> > such as air capture and improving land usage (biochar, afforestation, >> > etc). This will have the double impact of discouraging the use of >> > fossil fuel, while at the same time encouraging carbon-negative >> > activities, which makes the overall policy doubly effective. >> > >> > In conclusion, aviation seems a good place to start with fees tied to >> > funding of carbon-negative activities. At UN climate talks in Bonn, >> > the world's poorest nations proposed a levy of about $6 on every >> > flight (excluding air freight). The levy could raise up to $10 billion >> > per year and would increase the average price of an international >> > long-haul fare by less than 1% for standard class passengers, but up >> > to $62 for people traveling first class, according to a report in the >> > Guardian. >> > >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/apr/06/aviation-climate-change-tax >> > >> > In the light of those amounts, it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect >> > that fees imposed on conventional jet fuel could raise billions per >> > year. Proceeds could then be used to fund rebates on air capture of >> > carbon dioxide, which could be pumped into the bags on location to >> > enhance algae growth. Air capture devices could be powered by surplus >> > energy from offshore wind turbines. With the help of such funding, the >> > entire infrastructure could be set up quickly, helping the >> > environment, creating job opportunities, making the US less dependent >> > on oil imports, while leaving us with more land and water to grow >> > food, resulting in lower food prices. >> > http://my.nowpublic.com/environment/funding-co2-air-capture >> > >> > Cheers! >> > Sam Carana >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in >> Scotland, with registration number SC005336. >> >> >> >> > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
