I guess this makes you a "cereal killer."  Cereal is also relatively expensive. 
 Starch based packing peanuts would be whiter and also biodegradable, but the 
scale and other issues previously discussed in my opinion make this an 
infeasible pre-emptive measure.  

You may have seen on the weather this week that some Saharan dust interfered 
with the development of a tropical wave in the Atlantic, so there are ways to 
prevent the growth of storms.   

I still think that an examination of the effect of placing a white cover over 
part of the country of Niger (of Plame and yellowcake fame) on the discharge of 
waves into the Gulf of Guinea would be a worthwhile exercise.  The hot Saharan 
air from there or even from other surrounding areas would have to pass over 
this cooler area and be subject to subsidence.  This would prevent it from 
converging and if it never enters the water with any characteristics of a wave, 
it can't gain energy from the jungle or the ITCZ, it can't gain rotation from 
the Coriolis effect and it can never become an organized tropical cyclone.  

Stephen Salter and Bill Gates want to kill them on the way to school or or 
work, I favor the "strangle them in the crib" or earlier approach.  BTW, that 
dinky little Cat 1 that hit Taiwan killed 500 people.  The best hurricane is no 
hurricane at all.  OK, I'm biased.  

In the fall of 1954, a 36-year-old pregnant woman in coastal NC was nearly 
killed when she attempted to remove downed tree limbs from her yard, thinking 
that a hurricane that had just struck the area had passed and instead was 
caught off guard by the winds from the backside of the storm as the eye was 
passing directly over her.  She was my mother.  I was along for the ride.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andrew Lockley 
  To: [email protected] 
  Cc: geoengineering 
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:48 PM
  Subject: [geo] Re: Home experiment


  After a couple of days all the Special K sank.  I think this is rather neat.  
It gives you a couple of days to whiten and insulate the ocean - just long 
enough to mess up a hurricane.  Then it can either end up as food for 
bottom-feeders or it will sequester the carbon.


  I think it could be worth a sea trial.  If anyone lives near a relatively 
secluded harbour and can afford to invest in a few boxes of breakfast cereal, 
it would be a very cheap geoeng experiment.  Perhaps we can attempt to 
calculate from first principles whether Rice Krispies or Sugar Puffs would be 
the best.  Will the Honey Monster or the GRRRRRREAT Tiger save Florida most 
effectively?


  An alternative is sawdust or matchwood, which would be more resilient and 
would have better insulating properties as it would float out of the water and 
is non-porous.  However, it's not as short lived, which may be a problem.


  I have to admit it would be extremely amusing if such a ridiculous idea 
actually works.


  A


  2009/8/13 Oliver Wingenter <[email protected]>


    Dear Andrew,

    If the water temperature is warmer than the air you will insulate the
    water and make it warmer.  What color will the Special K be after a
    few days if it is eat?  What happens to the (additional) fish near the
    surface when the hurricane comes?  If not the cooling effect will
    increase the mixed layer depth and this will have an additional
    cooling effect.

    Evaporation may increase because the surface area of the Special K is
    higher than the water.  Worth checking this out.

    Pick a substance that will break down in a few days and is benign.
    There is a natural organic scum on the sea surface already.  If you
    add to it, you will alter bubble bursting and air-sea transfer.

    Good luck,

    Oliver Wingenter





    On Aug 12, 5:50 pm, Andrew Lockley <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I tested my theory that breakfast cereals could disrupt hurricanes with a
    > very small experiment.
    > I got some Kellog's Special K and floated it in briny water for 36 hours. 
 I
    > tried two versions: soaked in olive oil, and dry.  Both samples remained
    > afloat, just under the surface of the water, at the end of the experiment.
    >
    > I suggest that this will make a significant difference to heat transfer 
into
    > the hurricane, by a variety of mechanisms:
    > 1) Increasing albedo (Special K is pale yellow) which will reduce solar
    > heating of the sea
    > 2) Impeding circulation on small scales near the surface, reducing
    > evaporation
    > 3) Oil-mixed cereal may reduce evaporation directly, by reducing the wet
    > surface area
    > 4) A continuous oil layer will reduce wave disturbance, thus reducing
    > effective surface area.
    >
    > I think this idea is worthy of some further consideration.  I really hope
    > someone can comment on the idea.  It seems pretty cheap and 
environmentally
    > benign to me.
    >
    > A






  

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