Alvia We should not knock each other's new ideas too early but if I multiply the area of the earth by 3.7 watt/m2 I get 1884 TW .
At $2 bn/TW the ICE 911 scheme does look a bit expensive. Are you quoting the figures correctly? Stephen Emeritus Professor of Engineering Design School of Engineering and Electronics University of Edinburgh Mayfield Road Edinburgh EH9 3JL Scotland tel +44 131 650 5704 fax +44 131 650 5702 Mobile 07795 203 195 [email protected] http://www.see.ed.ac.uk/~shs Alvia Gaskill wrote: > I wasn't aware of ICE911 as it hasn't been discussed before in the > many discussions of geoengineering that have occurred in the last > several years. The concept is rather vaguely described at the website: > > http://www.ice911.org/Ice911%20Update%20072109.pdf > > and appears to involve the use of plastic or some other kind of > polymeric material to cover glaciers, floating sea ice and sea water, > although the project leader says plastic is not involved. Stephen > Schneider, long time critic and opponent of geoengineering (and this > would be considered geoengineering) is however, involved as an > advisor. http://www.ice911.org/team.shtml Like they say, everybody's > a believer in a foxhole, 9-15-09 being the date for the third worst > loss of sea ice on record and should by all reason increase the number > of foxhole occupants. > > The pdf page says that $2 billion of Ice911 raw materials can offset 1 > Terawatt of incoming solar flux. Wonder if the absorption of > upwelling solar IR is factored into this? > > I can't provide much else in the way of details of the idea, but the > website seems heavily weighted towards getting donations to make the > project work. In today's post Madoff-Bush-Lehman Bros. world, > contributions will be a little harder to come by without some facts to > back them up, no matter who endorses the idea. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Peter Read <mailto:[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Cc:* Leslie Field <mailto:[email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:00 PM > *Subject:* For info Fw: [geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Leslie Field <mailto:[email protected]> > *To:* Peter Read <mailto:[email protected]> > *Cc:* Leslie Field <mailto:[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:26 AM > *Subject:* Re: [geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering > > Hi Peter, > > My email reply to you didn't post to the google group, as I'm not > a member. Not sure that's an action item, just wanted to let you > know I got a "bounce" notice from that address. > > Best regards, > Leslie > > > > Leslie Field wrote: >> Hi Peter, >> >> Thanks for the cc. One quick clarification is that Ice911 >> doesn't use floating plastic islands. >> (Two problems with plastics in general: plastics can have some >> unwanted eco impacts, and plastics can suppress evaporation.) >> >> Our small-scale tests have been very encouraging so far, and >> we're working on getting some larger-scale tests in place this >> season. >> >> Best regards, >> Leslie >> >> Leslie Field, Ph.D. >> Ice911 Research Corporation >> www.ice911.org >> [email protected] >> (650) 823-2020 >> [[Snipped - PR]] > > > > -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
