Dear Mike,

Yes, but it was clear at the conference that there is a void in global governance on this issue, and that new institutions need to be created to deal with this issue.

Certainly the issue of Arctic influence needs to be investigated with climate models, but the size of in situ experimentation that could be deemed safe and not needing consultation with others, was also not decided. People discussed various parameters in time and space, but there was no consensus. So until the governance of the research is in hand, it is certainly premature for a group of gung-ho engineers to ask the Arctic Council about anything.

Alan

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On 4/15/2010 8:47 PM, Mike MacCracken wrote:
Dear Alan et al---Just a note that the Asilomar Conference was focused on issues relating to guidelines for research, not to issues that need investigation through research, as does the question of how much of an influence in one region it might take to have a significant effect in another region.

Mike MacCracken


On 4/15/10 8:28 PM, "Alan Robock" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Dear Josh,

    You forget one thing.  The Arctic Council has absolutely no
    jurisdiction over global climate.  And you cannot confine
    geoengineering to the Arctic.  These were clear conclusions from
    the Asilomar Conference.  You are jumping the gun.

    The Icelandic volcano so far has put out very little SO2, and will
    have no climatic impact.  Yet it shut down air traffic over Europe.
    Alan

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      Associate Director, Center for Environmental Prediction
    Department of Environmental Sciences        Phone: +1-732-932-9800
    x6222
    Rutgers University                                  Fax:
    +1-732-932-8644
    14 College Farm Road                   E-mail:
    [email protected]
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    On 4/15/2010 6:37 PM, Josh wrote:


        Is anyone aware of organized efforts to place geoengineering
        on the
        agenda of the Arctic Council?  Several commentators have
        raised this
        possibility, but I am unaware of any systematic effort to
        accomplish
        this.  Focusing on the Arctic Council offers a number of
        advantages:

        - The Arctic Council is much less politicized than bodies like
        UNFCCC.  Indeed, the AC is unknown to the general public.  The AC
        would provide a forum that is less heated, less
        confrontational, and
        less burdened by the weight of history.

        - Membership in the AC is relatively small and manageable.  It is
        composed of relatively developed countries with the resources to
        pursue geoengineering.  Most of those countries that have
        indicated
        some degree of openness to intervention belong to the AC.

        - Given that the Arctic is disproportionately affected by climate
        change, the AC and its member states would be more likely to
        consider
        climate interventions.  In the Arctic, climate is changing and
        people
        know it.  Native peoples may be supportive of geoengineering.

        - Arctic climate change is an urgent issue, so geoengineering
        in the
        Arctic is a logical place to begin.  A limited geographic
        focus would
        diminish opposition and give the science a chance to prove itself.

        For these and other reasons, the AC offers a promising venue
        for field
        tests and possible deployment.  Nature has also provided us with a
        potential public relations coup - the current Iceland volcano.  If
        this eruption could be shown to result in reduced temperatures,
        thicker sea ice, more polar bear cubs, etc., the argument for
        stratospheric injections would look much more compelling.

        Josh Horton



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