Isn't the main problem with CROPS that you're burying something which is
flammable, at the same time that similar flammable materials are being dug
up elsewhere ? There seems little point collating and transporting all that
crop waste, then just throwing it into sea, when you could generate power
with it instead.

Ironically it might be more efficient to use the electricity so generated to
power carbon  air capture technologies.  With a bit of luck there would
still be enough electricity left over to sell, even after you'd captured
more carbon than was in the original crop waste.

A second problem is, as previously mentioned, the legal restriction on
dumping at sea.

Finally, an issue which appears not to have been studied in detail is the
risk of the CROPS scheme causing large gas hydrate deposits, which are then
later destabilized as the oceans warm.  This could potentially create a
forcing far greater than that of the avoided CO2.

Hopefully someone can calculate these effects, as I don't know how to.

A

On 10 Sep 2010 20:10, "Alvia Gaskill" <[email protected]> wrote:

I think there is some confusion about the term "ventilation rate" as it is
used here.  The work that apparently forms the basis for the 250-year
ventilation rate for the GOM discusses it in terms of how long the deep
water in the Gulf stays there before being carried back out into the
Caribbean Sea.  If you look at Figure 15 from the linked reference, it shows
that the deepest water exits over the Yucatan Sill at 2040 meters.  What
happens to it after that is unclear.  The ventilation rate referred to here
is how long it takes the water to make it out of the Gulf, not how long it
would take CO2 from decomposing bales of crop waste to re-enter the
atmosphere.  The relatively high oxygen levels at the bottom, around 5 mg/L
could accelerate oxidation of the waste, but over long periods of time it
would probably become buried in sediment and would be in an anoxic
environment, also limiting any transport of CO2 to the surface.  So I would
encourage you to research this a little more before giving up on the Gulf of
Mexico.

http://oceanografia.cicese.mx/personal/jochoa/PDFS/Rivas_etal_JPO_2005.pdf

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After our publication it was pointed out to me that the ventilation rate of
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