Dear All,

I proposed to Yvo DeBoer in 1008 that he might like to request the IPCC to complete a rapid special report on Active mitigation options such as geo-engineering. This might follow the report series the IPCC have done on renewables etc.

At that point Yvo felt that the IPCC coverage of geo-eng in the AR4 would cover it.

Perhaps we could make a stronger case for IPCC to do something useful on geo-eng. The new UNFCCC leadership and also the post Copenhagen / Cancun context may help gain an IPCC review of options and secure greater dialogue and inclusion in the UNFCCC texts, such as in the KP, LCA, REDD or CDM text.

where would it best be in the UNFCCC text and what would it need to say.

The KP and LCA text already talks about 'reduction of emissions and removal by sinks' How can this be explored further?

best,

Emily.


On 30/12/2010 14:22, John Nissen wrote:
Thanks, John for these reduction requirements. They are clearly impossible to achieve, but even if they could be achieved would not guarantee keeping within 2 degrees this century. And 2 degrees is far from safe. We have no option but to remove CO2 from the atmosphere (CDR) at an increasing rate until the removal is faster than the addition from emissions. But what's the timescale? Is global warming the most immediate threat?

Ocean acidification is proceeding at an alarming rate. It will soon reach a level in the Arctic where shells cannot form and the marine food chain is affected [1] [2]. Thus we have only a decade or two to reduce CO2 levels below 350 ppm. CO2 removal becomes imperative, and has to reach the rate of emissions within a decade so that the CO2 level starts falling.

On top of these problems we have the Arctic sea ice retreat, which has to be halted to avoid massive methane discharge from permafrost otherwise all plans to halt global warming would be trashed. CO2 reduction will not have any appreciable effect in the timescales - so we have to cool the Arctic quickly [3]. We have no option but use solar radiation management (SRM), possibly supplemented by other more specific measures to retain the sea ice.

My sincere hope for 2011 is that the necessity for these urgent actions - both CDR and SRM types of geoengineering - will finally be recognised in international negotiations, to put our global society on a new safe path towards a successful future [4]. Please help in lobbying for this.

Best wishes for the New Year,

John

[1] http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100603092018.htm

[2] http://www.bitsofscience.org/ocean-acidification-faster-438/

[3] http://www.catlin.com/cgl/media/press_releases/pr_2009/209-10-15/

[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse:_How_Societies_Choose_to_Fail_or_Succeed See especially Chapter 14 "Why do some societies make disastrous decisions?"

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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:54 AM, John Gorman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Thanks, Emily, for finding this FoE report
    The report (1) looks at the emissions from each country now, and
    projections for 2020 and 2050. I did the same,from a different
    perspective, for my document "Why Copenhagen Failed" (2) so I have
    checked their calculations and they are correct.
    These are the reductions that would be required from the largest
    eight emitters by 2020 in order to keep within the 2 degree C
    rise;(in alphabetical order)
    Canada     80% reduction by 2020
    China       20% reduction by 2020
    Germany  63% reduction by 2020
    India       63% /increase/ by 2020
    Japan      65% reduction by 2020
    Russia    80% reduction by 2020
    UK         57%reduction by  2020
    USA       80% reduction by 2020
    Notes
    -These figures contain no fudges like "emissions intensity" or
    basing reductions on 1990. Reductions are from now -and real.
    -The 20% reduction for China is just as impossible as the 80% for
    the USA. China expects 300 million people to move from subsistence
    agriculture to the towns by 2030 and predicted 100% increase.
    -The increase allowed to India is due to the very low per capita
    emission now but is still far less than their post Copenhagen
    prediction of 100% increase.(3)
    The obvious impossibility of achieving these reductions is the
    central argument for geoengineering research -now.
    John Gorman
    (1)
    
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Environment/documents/2010/12/15/CarbonBudgetsReportdec14final.pdf
    
<http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Environment/documents/2010/12/15/CarbonBudgetsReportdec14final.pdf>
    (2) http://www.naturaljointmobility.info/WhyCopenhagenFailed.htm
    <http://www.naturaljointmobility.info/WhyCopenhagenFailed.htm>
    (3)Last page of letter to Chris Huhne UK Minister for Energy at
    http://www.naturaljointmobility.info/letters.htm
    <http://www.naturaljointmobility.info/letters.htm>

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Emily" < [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
    To: "geo-engineering grp" < [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >

    Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:37 PM
    Subject: [geo] geo eng and new Friends of the Earth EWNI report
    urges very
    deep and rapid emission cuts


    Hi,

    please read the last sentence in particular: FoE now join WWF in
    accepting the possible need for geo-engineering. I agree with this
    analysis.

    I am trying to track down a link tot he report - if you have one,
    please
    circulate.
    manyt hanks and Best wishes,
    Emily.

    RECKLESS GAMBLERS
    key conclusions..


    • Recent climate science and risk analysis

    show that there is now a

    very small remaining safe level of

    greenhouse gas emissions compatible

    with preventing dangerous climate

    change.

    • A 2 degrees temperature rise can

    no longer be considered “safe”; even

    1.5 degrees carries with it major risks.

    • Even a Global Carbon Budget of

    1100 Gigatonnes of CO 2 equivalent

    from now to 2050, which would

    give a 75% chance of exceeding

    1.5 degrees, and a 30% chance of

    exceeding 2 degrees, would require

    unprecedented emissions reductions

    which go far beyond those currently

    contemplated by politicians. Reducing

    risks further would require even

    tougher action.

    • If dangerous climate change is to

    be averted it will require immediate

    and significant changes to how we

    fuel our economies in virtually all

    countries, it will require systemic

    action across all sectors of the

    economies of all countries.

    • As leaders of countries with large

    historical and current emissions,

    politicians in developed countries must

    shoulder the blame for increasing

    the risk of dangerous climate

    change. They will need to make deep

    emissions reductions and provide

    hundreds of billions of dollars for

    developing countries to grow without

    carbon-intensive energy.


    • Living within the small remaining

    global carbon budget, if shared out

    on an equal per capita basis between

    2010 and 2050, would require

    reductions in emissions in developed

    countries of around 8-15 per cent

    per annum, immediate emissions

    reductions in some developing

    countries, an early peak and decline

    in emissions in others, and some

    countries would be able to continue

    to increase emissions from their very

    low baseline. These are just illustrative

    figures, not prescriptions but if one

    group of countries emits more than

    these amounts, it would require

    corresponding reductions in what

    other countries emit and the scope for

    this is now very limited. Achieving cuts

    in developing countries will require

    substantial financial and technology

    transfers from developed countries.

    • Urgent research and debate needs

    to be carried out - alongside urgent

    action to reduce emissions - to identify

    exactly how to share out the remaining

    global carbon budget and whether

    these reductions are technically

    possible and, if not, whether

    approaches using negative emissions

    or even geo-engineering are possible

    or acceptable.



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